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What to do with an LA 318? #1024850
07/02/11 09:32 PM
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So when I bought my Darts 2 years ago I got this 318 as a part of the deal. I never really thought anything of it but now I am just curious what I could put it in. But first, just for background information, this thing has been sitting outside, uncovered since I got it. It is supposedly an all stock 70 or 71 318 out of a Barracuda and only had about 30k miles on it and was running when pulled. Approximately how much would it cost to rebuild this on a budget (not necessarily looking for super high power)? What could/should I do with this? I was thinking of finding some lightweight car and putting it in there with an auto for a little cruiser or something. Ideas/Thoughts? Picture was taken in November and I don't have access to it because it is at my mechanics. Thank you!

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Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024851
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If it isn't rusted solid then a base rebuild will run about $2000 parts and machine shop costs.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: stumpy] #1024852
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What is the partial VIN on the passenger side?

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: Alaskan_TA] #1024853
07/02/11 09:55 PM
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What is the partial VIN on the passenger side?




I am honestly not sure. I don't have access to it. I will take more pictures and get more information when I go to my mechanics next time.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024854
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is that a 4-v carb on an 2-v to 4-v adaptor on the early 2-v intake?

I have done that before on an engine.

a tear down and looky see with a mic/feeler gauge is in oreder to decide if its a good build on the cheap or will need other hard parts and rebuild,re-ring IMHO

it is the sitting out side for a long while ?

it is kinda like a used 727,looks good on the floor while it is for sale...but does it work after you chanced it like the uesd parts lotto

good luck

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1024855
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Considering a good, running used magnum or LA 318 can be had at the local u-pull yard for $200 w/ a 90 day warranty, I would probably just sell your 318 for the price of scrap if it's been sitting out getting rained on, etc.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1024856
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and take that cast iron bathtub too. who knows, you might get enough money for a case of beer, and a pack of smokes!!!


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Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1024857
07/03/11 03:40 AM
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is that a 4-v carb on an 2-v to 4-v adaptor on the early 2-v intake?

I have done that before on an engine.

a tear down and looky see with a mic/feeler gauge is in oreder to decide if its a good build on the cheap or will need other hard parts and rebuild,re-ring IMHO

it is the sitting out side for a long while ?

it is kinda like a used 727,looks good on the floor while it is for sale...but does it work after you chanced it like the uesd parts lotto

good luck




It's actually just a Holley two-barrel carb on the stock intake manifold. It has been sitting for a while now. It may not rain much in CA, but I think it would be enough rain to possibly do some damage. Idk, I figured rebuilding this would be better than buying a new one.

I was just thinking, that if I have to drive in traffic in the future (I know, I know, I have been blabbing about this a lot), that I could possibly hook it to a 904, 727, or a 518 (if they are compatible, I'm not sure) with an Overdrive and put it in a light-weight, pre-76 car (whatever pops up, not necessarily a mopar) and drive it as a daily driver. Just a thought.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024858
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Stroke it

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: JoesMopar] #1024859
07/03/11 04:01 AM
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Stroke it




To a like 390 or something? I think I saw a kit for sale today for a little less than $2k not including tax and shipping.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1024860
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Considering a good, running used magnum or LA 318 can be had at the local u-pull yard for $200 w/ a 90 day warranty, I would probably just sell your 318 for the price of scrap if it's been sitting out getting rained on, etc.



unless you are using this as your rebuild learning experience. the cost of rebuilding an unknown engine thats been sitting outside uncovered will keep your wallet empty.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: mikemee1331] #1024861
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build something different. weld up some steel tube, bolt a 727 behind it, and an 8.25 axle, and have a rolling chassis for cheap. then drop some sort of cool custom body on it. like a coffin, or an outhouse, or....


otherwise, as common as 318s are, I don't think it's worth anything. I hate to say that because it is a 1970s original, and worth something to the right guy (numbers motor, date coded for the right car on a concours restoration, etc.) finding that one guy will be next to impossible, and anyone can take a magnum 318 or even a magnum 360, add a few hundred bucks in performance upgrades, and have a nearly 400 hp engine for about a grand out of the junkyard...and since it was originally an EFI motor, even with 100K miles on it, it'll run like a top for years to come.


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Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024862
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I recently ran into this situation. I had a low mile 68 casting 318. I just pulled it apart and checked the bores, and replaced the rings and bearings. I replaced the cam with a 340 spec cam i bought here and used a spread bore intake I bought used also from this site. I have less than $250 tied up into it. It's not going to be a powerhouse by any means but a good dependable engine. Then again a pair of cheap e-bay turbos may find their way onto it.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: The Sphinx] #1024863
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You already ruined any value that engine had by leaving it out side.

I'ed brake it down and see if it needs any machine work. If it does then scrap it. If not then do a cheapo rering/bearings (if needed) and store it in a dry place as a back up engine.


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Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: CrAlt] #1024864
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I think a mopar guy (he is not from here but he loved demons and was from Utah) back in November told me that the engine may only be worth around $50 or so since it's condition is unknown and all I have is information by word of mouth.

It would be cool to make a little kit car out of it or my own daily driver but how would you get a title for something like that?

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024865
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It would be cool to make a little kit car out of it or my own daily driver but how would you get a title for something like that?


you are easily side-tracked aren't you?

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: mikemee1331] #1024866
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It would be cool to make a little kit car out of it or my own daily driver but how would you get a title for something like that?


you are easily side-tracked aren't you?




Not at all. I just analyze and elaborate on an idea when it comes up. And it is not really side-tracking from the thread because I am still trying to figure out what to do with this engine and using it in a little buggy or kit car kind of deal would be something I could do with it.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024867
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It would be cool to make a little kit car out of it or my own daily driver but how would you get a title for something like that?




Depends on the state.. im gona have to deal with this issue when my T-bucket is done.

http://www.semasan.com/images/pdf/california.pdf

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62292


I was asked to contribute money to help solve the civil unrest in Egypt, but I suspect it's some sort of pyramid scheme.

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: CrAlt] #1024868
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It would be cool to make a little kit car out of it or my own daily driver but how would you get a title for something like that?




Depends on the state.. im gona have to deal with this issue when my T-bucket is done.

http://www.semasan.com/images/pdf/california.pdf

http://www.semasan.com/main/main.aspx?id=62292




That is very cool. I will keep these websites in mind

Re: What to do with an LA 318? [Re: MuuMuu101] #1024869
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Don't junk the carb or the adapter, sell them to me!

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