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Cleaning fouled plugs. #1019841
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Hi All,
Sadly, I only drive my car a couple of times a year (that has to change). That said, I do run it in the driveway on a regular basis. As a result of the extended idling, the plugs tend to foul on a yearly basis.
Now, I know that the best solution is replacement, but over here in Oz, for some bizarre reason, we're paying $4.75 USD per plug. If I can, I'd prefer to avoid paying nearly $40 for a set of plugs.

So, I'm thinking of spraying the plugs with some starting fluid, and clean with some 240 grit paper?

Suggestions?

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019842
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I've had great results over the years by spraying with ether. Then hit gently with a wire brush (not a wheel). Then I blow out thouroughly and regap.


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Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019843
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The traditional way is with a mini sandblast setup. You insert the plug, turn on the air and it gets blasted clean. Not too common now.

A little brake cleaner and sandpaper works/helps. After the sandpaper and brake cleaner, it may help to hold the tip in the flame of a propane torch to burn off any remaining carbon or deposits.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019844
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It shouldn't be fouling them, even if it's only run a few times a year. How is your tune set up?

What is your initial, mechanical and total timing set at?

How do you have your floats set?


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Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: ahy] #1019845
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The traditional way is with a mini sandblast setup. You insert the plug, turn on the air and it gets blasted clean.


One of those or a buddy w a glass beader cabinet


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Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: RapidRobert] #1019846
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No matter what you use the longevity of the plugs is gone, once they are fouled they don't seem to last after cleaning.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: MoparforLife] #1019847
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No matter what you use the longevity of the plugs is gone, once they are fouled they don't seem to last after cleaning.




Yes and no, like what was said, you got to get it tuned up.

For about close to 10 years I glass beaded 4 spark plugs out of a fork/lift truck that had 4 cyl ford engine in it. It's a 1969 hyster and I cleaned those plugs for like 10 years until I replaced the very exspensive governed carb(that I didn't want to buy) with a propane vaporizer and mixer and it still runs today on that same LP kit. It did finally get a new engine a couple years ago. But with careful attention to detail(get em completely clean of any glass beads) it can be effective. But there's never a replacement for new plugs.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019848
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If not too bad clean with a non-oily solvent [ lacquer thinner ] then use a small wire brush on any crusty deposits. Now open the gap far enough to get a small ignition point file between the electrodes and file them flat and regap. You should be good to go. Someone made the point about why are they fouling in the first place. You may want to follow up on that. With little use it's hard to see why they would foul so long as you ran it long and hard enough when you did use it, unless it's either really rich or has an oil control issue. Good luck.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019849
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I clean my fouled plugs with a propain torch. just heat the plug till the electrode glows red and the porcilen turns white. The carbon will burn off no problem.


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Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019850
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What brand are the plugs you're using?
I had that same problem a few years ago when using Champions. They would build up deposits and foul every few months.
I quit using the Champions and used AC Delcos instead. Ever since, no more fouling. The plug part number is R44XLS. Try those.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: 5spdcuda] #1019851
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Sorry I just reread your post. I really think you would be better off not starting it at all, if all your going to do is let it idle in the driveway. You need to run it hard and long enough to get not just the water up to normal temp, but the oil as well. Take it out on the road and hammer the snot out of it once it's up to temp and I think your plug fouling issues will be a thing of the past.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: yella71] #1019852
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I 2nd this idea hit them with a map gas or propane torch and they'll be white again in no time.


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Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: HemiRick] #1019853
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i 2nd the idea of letting it truly warm up an hammer the snot out of it, literally. you need the whole engine up to operating temp, and to run it there for at least a short time, and not just idling. you also need to heat up the exhaust system and blow the condensation out of it, or it is just moisture sitting there to rust it all out.

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019854
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go for it, done it for years, still do it,, I use a plug cleaner (mini sand blaster) then blow out and re-gap

Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019855
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Hi All,
Thanks for all the suggestions.
I'll try a combination of all of them (including beating the snot out of the car more regularly!).

I have an LM-1 A/F meter, so I'm generally confident of the state of tune. However, when it was idling the other day, it was running quite rich.
Unfortunately, it's pretty much 6-12month old gas in there too.
So I think it's a combination of the idling and the old gas that's causing the plugs to foul.

I just need to clean them up, beat on it to get it warm, adjust the valves and then see where we sit.
(and check the oil for fuel contamination!).

Cheers!


Re: Cleaning fouled plugs. [Re: Damned67] #1019856
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Years ago it was standard practice to clean plugs.As said the small blaster was used.Insert plug hook up air and blast them.I rebember my old man going to the garage and having the points changed and the plugs changed.It usually cost about 15 bucks total.Every second or third point change they replaced the plugs.Back them a set of plugs and labor on a BB Mopar was about 25 to 30 bucks.That was a couple of days pay.Rocky


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i 2nd the idea of letting it truly warm up an hammer the snot out of it, literally. you need the whole engine up to operating temp, and to run it there for at least a short time, and not just idling. you also need to heat up the exhaust system and blow the condensation out of it, or it is just moisture sitting there to rust it all out.



3rd. Put StaBil in the fuel too.







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