Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
[Re: speedfreak440]
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Paint is dead last for me. Although you really don't receive any appreciation until the very end from others when that's the way it's done.
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9.94 @ 134, 318 on pump gas, 14 lbs w/ Eddies, transbrake 727, 3600 lbs, 3.54 gear and 28's.
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
[Re: topfueldart]
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I prefer to build them both multiple times, over and over I guess you will have that when you have messed with the same car for over 20 years..
Jim
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
[Re: earthmover]
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I'm building my Rampage right now... I have the chassis done but lacking a few mounting tabs for the brake and fuel lines and wiring... I have all the parts for the engine and have mocked up the engine... I dont like doing body work and engine work at the same time... to much dust...paint is last... even after the car is running, in case I need to pull the engine back out... if its nice out I'll roll the car outside to do some body work while building the engine in my office area
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
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when you say body ..your not meaning chassis?
i do chassis first..you can see alot of et drop as you start to get the chassis right.. (with a pig motor) then get it all good,,cage,brakes,driveline.. get the suspension working...watch the et drop even with a pig motor.. then drop in a real motor..and youve got a good platform to go with...
we saw a car (duster) with a junk 360 go from 8.60s in stock drive line and chassis.. to 7.70s with a good converter rear axle and suspension working properly.. 60fts from 2.1 all the way down to 1.78 with just suspension and driveline...hooking.. cheapst
365" Iron J heads,,3480lbs best 1.39 60ft on SS springs.10.54,124 mph ...6.67 1/8th et.average 60fts 1.46 w/ small cam &.063 no2 pill tagged & insured [image][/image]
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
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Build the best chassis you can first, then whatever horsepower comes later you'll have the foundation.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
[Re: earthmover]
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what do you guys do first build the motor and work on the body as you go ??? or do you build the body and use whatever you have for a motor to start with???? cant do both at 1 time ( i cant anyway)lol...ive got my duster up for sell to try and buy a car thats about ready for what i would like to do, also have alot of the parts to build the motor to what i want so im kinda stuck.....
I think it is best to have a goal or plan for the car first and then build it around the goal. I have done motors first, not real bright I have also done the chassis and suspension first, stretch the wheelwells, built the motor and then had the car painted and interior done. I did all the wiring, plumbing and so on, I don't do paint, interior or weld or fabricate( except on here, occasionally ) That being said I have a 1940 ford Tudor street crusier that is in its 6th or 7th year of construction, maybe even longer. The paint, chassis work (complete rolling new aftermarket one) most of the interior , plumbing and headers are done. I need to build the motor and trans, finish plumbing the fuel and brakes, wire it, finish the heat and air conditioning and QUIT working on the Duster so I will have time and money to finish the 40 Ford
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
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06/24/11 09:37 AM
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Body and paint is dead last for me…..that’s why my car is a 20 footer, going on 50 feet .
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
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Body/chassis first, unless you want to go in stages, or have plans for horsepower that can be handled by pretty much stock suspension. You can do a lot if you are planning on staying in the elevens and up. Example; hot small block, A body, get some good shocks, clam the rear springs as needed, slicks that can be run with the stock springs. Bigblock, same thing, just keep in mind that past about 11.0, it will get tough to get it hooked up.
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Re: what do you build first the body or the motor
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Not that I've ever finished anything................
but, I work from the "rear of the car forward" approach.
If the chassis can't handle the HP it's inconsistent and unreliable.
So, body stiffening (cage/frame ties) first, chassis/suspension second, fuel system, front suspenion/brakes, engine/trans, then appearance aka body/paint.
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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