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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1016047
06/19/11 02:34 PM
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It is also easier to work on the dash with the steering column out of the way. I would also be tempted to bypass the rheostat completely and have full voltage to the dash lights.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1016048
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It is also easier to work on the dash with the steering column out of the way. I would also be tempted to bypass the rheostat completely and have full voltage to the dash lights.




You know that was an idea i was thinking as i have never needed to turn down the lights ever!


Hey will the switch come out from the front of the dash??

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016049
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Just a thought, did you check the fuse for the dash lights and the fuse for the tailights? Either one will kill the dash lights.


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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: 6PakBee] #1016050
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Just a thought, did you check the fuse for the dash lights and the fuse for the tailights? Either one will kill the dash lights.




Ok i am on that now............. Well as soon as i can muster up the courage to get under the dash as thats where we relocated the fuse panel too.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016051
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Ok fuses all good and i pulled the connector out of the switch just to make sure it was tight and plugged it back but still no light. Then i got stuck under the dash and had to have my kids and wife yank me out. Luckly i had my shops come-along handy.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016052
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Ok fuses all good and i pulled the connector out of the switch just to make sure it was tight and plugged it back but still no light. Then i got stuck under the dash and had to have my kids and wife yank me out. Luckly i had my shops come-along handy.




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Yank off the 3 tab connector to the dimmer switch, jumper the (2) leads I think they are Orange that went through the dimmer rheostadt. This will send a full 12V to the dash lites. Also check the connector to make sure that 12V is incoming from the headlite switch..

Post back your findings..

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: Sinitro] #1016053
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Ok fuses all good and i pulled the connector out of the switch just to make sure it was tight and plugged it back but still no light. Then i got stuck under the dash and had to have my kids and wife yank me out. Luckly i had my shops come-along handy.




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Yank off the 3 tab connector to the dimmer switch, jumper the (2) leads I think they are Orange that went through the dimmer rheostadt. This will send a full 12V to the dash lites. Also check the connector to make sure that 12V is incoming from the headlite switch..

Post back your findings..




I wish i could do that but getting stuck under the dash one time was enough for today...


Can those switches be accessed from the front fo the dash??

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016054
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Ok fuses all good and i pulled the connector out of the switch just to make sure it was tight and plugged it back but still no light. Then i got stuck under the dash and had to have my kids and wife yank me out. Luckly i had my shops come-along handy.




STU..
Yank off the 3 tab connector to the dimmer switch, jumper the (2) leads I think they are Orange that went through the dimmer rheostadt. This will send a full 12V to the dash lites. Also check the connector to make sure that 12V is incoming from the headlite switch..

Post back your findings..




I wish i could do that but getting stuck under the dash one time was enough for today...


Can those switches be accessed from the front fo the dash??




Yes and no......if that darn complete switch plate (with all of the switches) would come out without having to get behind and under the dash yes it would. If you remove the two screws from the back (again not possible without getting on your back under the dash) then you could just unplug it, take the screws out and pull the switch out from under the back of the dash.

I have the dash out right now on the '69 GTX and I fought that switch plate pretty hard and about to put it back in the next few hours; what a PITA. I'm changing the complete underdash wiring harness and been under there for the last two days, not only a PITA but as you said a pain in the back too....Back to your situation there is no way I know of without getting behind and under the dash to get that switch out. Taking out the two screws and pulling the switch out of the back to me at least is the quickest, easiest way but still requires getting on your back.


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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016055
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Ok fuses all good and i pulled the connector out of the switch just to make sure it was tight and plugged it back but still no light. Then i got stuck under the dash and had to have my kids and wife yank me out. Luckly i had my shops come-along handy.




STU..
Yank off the 3 tab connector to the dimmer switch, jumper the (2) leads I think they are Orange that went through the dimmer rheostadt. This will send a full 12V to the dash lites. Also check the connector to make sure that 12V is incoming from the headlite switch..

Post back your findings..




I wish i could do that but getting stuck under the dash one time was enough for today...


Can those switches be accessed from the front fo the dash??




Nope..
You are going to have to lose 50 pounds and about 10 inches from the waistline..
Then slip under the dash, left side of the column..

Can't fix the runner from the patio drinking a beer..

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016056
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Why floor dimmer? Headlights are fine. I would focus on the inst fuseand related wiring which you checked, that only get juice when the light switch is turned on. When the inst circuit is working correctly, you can use a standard test light from ground to fuse box inst fuse and see light dim and brighten as you roll the dash dimmer.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: DennisH ] #1016057
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Play around with the thumbwheel dimmer switch on the dash. Go past the notch then up and down.





I'd go with the dash dimmer switch.


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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: basketcase] #1016058
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Play around with the thumbwheel dimmer switch on the dash. Go past the notch then up and down.





I'd go with the dash dimmer switch.




Me too, usually the tab/contact that runs against the springy thing wears or bends and loses contact.....sometimes just in different places but in your case completely. I don't remember if I was able to bend the contact and get one to work before or if it was another brand car.....getting too old or spent too much time under the dash the last two days

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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: A12] #1016059
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Stu , i'm no expert , but as far as i'm concerned your high beam dimmer has dik all to do with your dash lights.. only the high beam indicator. If your can confirm that the dash light fuse is ok (and you have 12v there) and that you have the dash light dimmer on its highest point (just before dome light comes on) , i'm saying its the plug where it plugs into your printed circuit board . I bet if you move it around or jiggle it a little, light should work.......providing that all your dash light bulbs never blew .

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016060
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Sounds like that maybe the reostat on the HL switch shorted out. Pretty common problem. Bulkhead connector that connects to the hl switch comes loose over time gets hot and shorts out. With your HLs on put your thumb against the switch to see if its hot to the touch. Really only way to tell is reach under and disconnect the connector. If it was loose you'll see some burn marks.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016061
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my dash lights were a no-go in the 73 Duster, replaced switch, dimmer, bulbs, cleaned the circuit board, checked grounds..all fuses. Guess what? it was the connector on the backside of the fusebox to one end of the fuse, it was corroded. I swapped a nice one from a junk fuse box and wah-la! LIGHTS


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Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MonGoo$e] #1016062
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Mine have been working perfectly since i had the car apart and the rebuilt dash installed. I got all new or rebuilt switches and guages. I also swapped the fuse box so i do not think it's that. Seems more like some type of connection issue or something broke in the switch??

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016063
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Not sure on a 69 RR but the instrument cluster is usually grounded thru the screws that hold it to the dash frame. If the screws loosen up you loose the ground.

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: Y3 70 BEE] #1016064
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Try jumping the dash dimmer switch to test the switch I'll post a picture as soon as possible on what needs to be jumped I lost my lights and have them jumped for now. You'll lose the ability to turn on and off the dome light but it will let you know of the switch is bad

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: MidPenMopar] #1016065
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Going over bumps in the roaqd has a way of loosening stuff up

Re: Lost all my dash lights tonight where would i start ? [Re: dart4forte] #1016066
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This is what you would Jump
Id try this if it works then something is wrong in the switch.

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