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If you take TEN DRIVERS from BOX and TEN DRIVERS from NO BOX ( RANDOM DRIVERS) and you average the NO BOX reaction times and the BOX reaction times,, you would realize that the "BOX" drivers have a MUCH BETTER reaction time... Does the "BOX" contribute to the better reaction time??? It most CERTAINLY DOES,, otherwise WHY WOULD ANYONE SPEND THE MONEY TO PURCHASE A BOX???? So,, How could you THINK there is NOT an advantage?????

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If you take ten random drivers, I agree with you. If you take the box cars and mix them with the no box cars the whole race, I agree there is an unfair advantage to the box cars. Take whomever is in the final with the box car and I am pretty certain they can hold their own on the tree. You wont get that far without being able cut lights as good as the Super Pro guys. Also, will lay down money that the average reaction time of the No Box Nationals two weeks ago was as good as any Super Pro race!

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If you take TEN DRIVERS from BOX and TEN DRIVERS from NO BOX ( RANDOM DRIVERS) and you average the NO BOX reaction times and the BOX reaction times,, you would realize that the "BOX" drivers have a MUCH BETTER reaction time... Does the "BOX" contribute to the better reaction time??? It most CERTAINLY DOES,, otherwise WHY WOULD ANYONE SPEND THE MONEY TO PURCHASE A BOX???? So,, How could you THINK there is NOT an advantage?????

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If you take ten random drivers, I agree with you. If you take the box cars and mix them with the no box cars the whole race, I agree there is an unfair advantage to the box cars. Take whomever is in the final with the box car and I am pretty certain they can hold their own on the tree. You wont get that far without being able cut lights as good as the Super Pro guys. Also, will lay down money that the average reaction time of the No Box Nationals two weeks ago was as good as any Super Pro race!

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Since when does having the better light always turn on the -W- anyway?

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Good point Won plenty of races being the second off the line. But it starts up front and if you are second off the tree you better be within .02 of the other racer or pray that they suck at the other end.

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Keep it 100% payout, you will never please everyone anyhow.
If you line up worrying about the box in the other car you already lost.

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i dont car about the 'box'
i have been driving my friends car for 4 years , while ive been building mine, I JUST WANT TO RACE!!
i almost got my car out last year for M M W ,
you can make it gamblers/box/no box dont care!
right now the way im looking at it, how do you know the guy has a box /no box anyway??

2 1/2 months to get to it , alot of time to improve it ,

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Or..... We can just run a gamblers race with a 50% payback like other events and the box guys won't ever have to race the no box guys.....

So here is the poll

Box v no box for 100% payback.

Or........

Same old gamblers race....

Ill let the racers decide

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wow it would pay the same if we had 2 times more racers entered .
Josh you got my pm ?
Make a stand and leave it alone .
Make your changes after the 1st year.
DR

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Dennis-i thought I taught you and Don better than that-if you and other guy are only 2 left-you have a 50/50 chance of winning-either you will or you wont-I will take 50/50 chance every time-let us pray-heavenly father-lets get onto something else-we have cried enough over this item.

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wise man