Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/20/11 10:15 AM
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So what exactly are the weights for this race? I think they really need to be lowered to something close to what you would race anywhere else if you use the rules we used in KY. The only combo that has to weigh 3300 should be BB with twins or f-3, nitrous BB should be 3000, 3100, and -400 or -500 for a sb nitrous like everywhere else does it.
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/20/11 10:21 PM
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Come on everyone let make plans to attend this event this could be 1st of many @ that track
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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i should be there with the road runner and having a bunch more heads up t-shirts made
Hope to see you at the race. Better bring a lot of those shirts people seem to love them.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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Brad that chrome on your r/t is really shining....lol
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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So what exactly are the weights for this race? I think they really need to be lowered to something close to what you would race anywhere else if you use the rules we used in KY. The only combo that has to weigh 3300 should be BB with twins or f-3, nitrous BB should be 3000, 3100, and -400 or -500 for a sb nitrous like everywhere else does it.
Weights are very close to KY Race and they had a good turn out there. We will look at lowering the weights for next year a lot of people are saying that weights are too high. I posted a flyer with the weights on it.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/21/11 12:14 PM
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Well good for you. I'm just telling everybody that these weights are crazy. You cant expect someone to add 400lbs to race this race and everywhere else they race you can weigh 3000 lbs. If you want outlaw style rules you need the outlaw weights to go along with it. Does anybody think I'm crazy for saying a nitrous car should not have to weigh as much as a boosted car with the same style engine?
One day I will have something cool here.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/21/11 12:50 PM
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Well good for you. I'm just telling everybody that these weights are crazy. You cant expect someone to add 400lbs to race this race and everywhere else they race you can weigh 3000 lbs. If you want outlaw style rules you need the outlaw weights to go along with it. Does anybody think I'm crazy for saying a nitrous car should not have to weigh as much as a boosted car with the same style engine?
I totally agree and I run a 360 inch motor with a Precision 98 mm turbo. Rules are in my favor. I am the heaviest car in our local series, and soon to be the fastest. Lol. I still hold our local smallblock nitrous record at a 5.41. That was 3 years ago at 3263#. Current smallblock combos are 2800# with a 23* head and 2950# with 18* or less. 434 cu in max smallblock nos and 572 bb nos. Forced induction ic 363 max sb and 468 bb. Ann fi car has to weigh 3550#. And sb fi is 3200# with 23*heads or 3350# with 18* or less. This has made our class ali more competitive. But you will never make everyone happy, I can promise you that.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/21/11 02:27 PM
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If this is a free entry race,lower the weights so you can get more cars involved,at the end of the day the tire is going to be the decideing factor anyways.and what about a weight break for low deck blocks(lol)
The tire will not be the deciding factor. Power management and chassis tuning will be. The tire has been in the 4.50's and not in a 2400# chassis car. It is capable of more than most of our pocket books can throw at it. Unlimited inches, unlimited power adders, no minimum weight, fiberglass hood, bumpers, and decklid only, no lexan and no wheelie bars. Then let em eat boys. Easy to police it this way.
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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06/21/11 02:28 PM
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3400 TOO MUCH???? SOUNDS GREAT TO MY 3500LB A$$..... LMAO..... IMAGINE MY COMBINATION AT 3000 ????? EXACTLY WHAT IS 100LBS WORTH IN THE 1/8 ??
....BAD A$$ STREET CAR.....
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Re: Mopar Heads-Up Small Tire Race #2 in Ohio
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Weights are not even close to other series. You want basically an oulaw radial/ limited street style race, why not use their weights? The heaviest combo shoud be BB with twins or f-3 139 or twin f-2 @3300. No way a nitrous BB should have to weigh the same, who is making more power? And you want a nitrous smallblock @3100 their only down over 1000hp, they should be at a minimum of 2700 lbs. To me you can't say all power adder cars weigh the same say drop na weights 200lbs and say -200lbs for nitrous would get you alot closer IMHO.
I hear ya man, and if there were any outlaw cars coming everything you said would apply. I also agree that 3400 is too heavy for bb N20. A seriuos smalblock single turbo could come there and be very hard to beat for BB n20 cars even if they were lighter, let alone being that heavy. Hell, X275 smallies with a single 88 on a 275 DR went 4.90's @ 150+ mph. Fortunately no serious outlaw 10.5 or O/L DR showed. Outlaw 10.5 cars here run 6.70's @ 200+ mph in the 1/4 mile. This (to me) was more of a small tire, street car shootout, not a heads-up shootout for serious outlaw cars and if one would have shown up, it would have destroyed everyone else there with ease.
All of that being said,the way the rules are there could be a serious player or two that show up, and if they do they will dominate completely. Not sure how to protect against that, the only saving grace is there isn't that many mopar powered outlaw cars around. So the way I see it, the ONLY thing stopping the big boys from coming in and sniping the purse is the heavy weights. Just my humble opinion, your mileage may vary
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