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WILL NOT START HOT #101126 08/07/08 02:20 PM 08/07/08 02:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 18 LOWER MICH B BATT21N OP member
BATT21N OP member B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 18 LOWER MICH	NEW 318 IN A 70 DUSTER IT STARTS GREAT COLD WILL NOT START HOT . WE REPLACED THE STARTER RELAY WE CAN JUMP IT AT THE SWITCH BUT IT WONT KEY START. ANY SUGGESTIONS?????

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: BATT21N] #101127 08/07/08 02:37 PM 08/07/08 02:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	(1)jump the NSS terminal on the starter relay to ground(it's the one that goes to the trans neutral safety switch) & try again. (2) see if you have fire to the yellow wire at the starter relay when the key is in "start". (1) is the most likely culprit & I useually just ground it permanently rather than bother with adjusting the NSS. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: RapidRobert] #101128 08/07/08 07:25 PM 08/07/08 07:25 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: (1)jump the NSS terminal on the starter relay to ground(it's the one that goes to the trans neutral safety switch) & try again. (2) see if you have fire to the yellow wire at the starter relay when the key is in "start". (1) is the most likely culprit & I useually just ground it permanently rather than bother with adjusting the NSS. Rapid, that is in my opinion, INCREDIBLY dangerous advice. All you'd have to do, just once, is have someone unawares start the car in gear, and off you go. Neutral safety switches work just fine on thousands of Mopars through the years, there is NEVER any reason to disable them

Re: WILL NOT START HOT #101129 08/07/08 07:46 PM 08/07/08 07:46 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,552 Mattituck NY. FJ6AAR pro stock
FJ6AAR pro stock Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,552 Mattituck NY.	In my experience with this (if you rule out an electrical problem) is to add a spacer between the carb and the manifold. Your gas is getting to hot from sitting or is boiling from the hot nonrunning engine - hence the no start when it is hot. Rob 1970 Hemi 'Cuda hard top clone 1971 Hemi 'Cuda Convertible clone

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: FJ6AAR] #101130 08/07/08 08:20 PM 08/07/08 08:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 902 Seattle, WA R rss super stock
rss super stock R Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 902 Seattle, WA	Quote: NEW 318 IN A 70 DUSTER IT STARTS GREAT COLD WILL NOT START HOT . WE REPLACED THE STARTER RELAY WE CAN JUMP IT AT THE SWITCH BUT IT WONT KEY START. ANY SUGGESTIONS????? Based on what you have written here I'm assuming you mean it won't turn over when hot. Is this correct? Not turning over (cranking) and not starting are two very different things when trying to troubleshoot. Just look at the responses you've gotten so far. One guys suggesting you bypass the neutral safety switch and another suggesting your gas has vaporized. My guess is that you've got a loose wire connection somewhere. Resistance in your wires will increase with temp, therefore when they are cold you are getting enough juice to turn the car over, but when warm the resistance is too high. How does your fusible link look?

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: BATT21N] #101131 08/07/08 09:52 PM 08/07/08 09:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,652 S.E.Ohio Magnumguy I Live Here
Magnumguy I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,652 S.E.Ohio	If it's rolling over OK and not starting, that's one thing, but if it barely rolls over, your starter is toast. Rebuild or replace it. "Multiple Magnum owner since 1978!!" https://www.facebook.com/groups/146952895354657/

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: Magnumguy] #101132 08/07/08 09:54 PM 08/07/08 09:54 PM
Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,233 petaluma,ca. u.s.a. west master
west master Joined: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,233 petaluma,ca. u.s.a.	Quote: If it's rolling over OK and not starting, that's one thing, but if it barely rolls over, your starter is toast. Rebuild or replace it. the post above yours explains why that may not be so.

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: west] #101133 08/07/08 10:03 PM 08/07/08 10:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 18 LOWER MICH B BATT21N OP member
BATT21N OP member B Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 18 LOWER MICH	SORRY, TO CLARIFY,,, I GET NOTHING ON THE SWITCH WITH THE KEY WHEN IT HAS RUN A WHILE NOTHING TO THE STARTER ...BUT WHEN ITS COLD IT STARTS ON A DIME, SO I FIGURE IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING ELE. HOW ABOUT THE BALLAST RESISTER? EVEN THOUGH IT IS NEW????

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: BATT21N] #101134 08/07/08 10:15 PM 08/07/08 10:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 33,005 Grand Prairie,Texas stumpy I Win
stumpy I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 33,005 Grand Prairie,Texas	Please don't yell. It's not polite.

Re: WILL NOT START HOT [Re: stumpy] #101135 08/07/08 10:59 PM 08/07/08 10:59 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 902 Seattle, WA R rss super stock
rss super stock R Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 902 Seattle, WA	Start with the basics clean up your battery terminal connections and make sure your connections are nice and tight. It may sound too simple but I've seen plenty of cases where a car would sometimes turn over and other times not just because of a dirty or loose bat connection. From there, check the fusible link. Make sure all your connections are clean and tight. If that all looks good, just continue to methodically work through the system checking all your connections. I had a bad fusible link connection years back. Drove me nutty until I figured out what it was. I used to call my car "Christine" back then because she seemed to have a mind of her own. One minute she wanted to turn over and run and others times not. Good luck

Re: WILL NOT START HOT #101136 08/07/08 11:33 PM 08/07/08 11:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Quote: (1)jump the NSS terminal on the starter relay to ground(it's the one that goes to the trans neutral safety switch) & try again. (2) see if you have fire to the yellow wire at the starter relay when the key is in "start". (1) is the most likely culprit & I useually just ground it permanently rather than bother with adjusting the NSS. Rapid, that is in my opinion, INCREDIBLY dangerous advice. All you'd have to do, just once, is have someone unawares start the car in gear, and off you go. Neutral safety switches work just fine on thousands of Mopars through the years, there is NEVER any reason to disable them yes it could be potentially dangerous esp if he has a stick, I've always been an auto fan so I have gotten complacent. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

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