manual trans question
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hello... I am looking for opinions on a shifting problem I have been having with my '70 'cuda. The rods appear to be installed and aligned correctly. With the car at rest, it appears I can reach all gears and reverse. However, while in motion going from 1st to 2nd is a problem. I can only get into 2nd gear intermittently and most of the time it won't go in. I can however, go from 1st to 3rd or 4th, then back into 2nd. I can also start out in 2nd. - The fluid is non-synthetic valvoline (or other) 80-90w. - The shifter was rebuilt by me with new internal parts and appears to be working well. - I also replaced the 1-2 operating lever because it had some play. I bought the car with the trans problem. My initial thoughts were a rod alignment, but after a closer look, I decided to rebuild the shifter. And while that made a big improvement, it didn't cure the 2nd gear problem. I have not pulled the sidecover, but at this point, I'm thinking 1-2 shifter fork???? Any thoughts would be very much appreciated, I'd like to drive this thing . Thank you - Jerry
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Re: manual trans question
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06/08/11 11:43 AM
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Did you try adjusting the clutch? Also is the fluid in the trans GL-4 or GL-5?
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Re: manual trans question
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Thank you for responding ..
No, I hadn't thought of adjusting the clutch. The car does not have an overcenter spring either, if that matters at all..
The fluid was in the trans when I bought the car. The prior owner told me it was valvoline 80-90w nothing further..
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Re: manual trans question
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It does not grind, it just will not go in. It will go into 2nd from 1st at a crawl, but under acceleration or any rate of speed about >5mph, it won't go in.
I do not know what type of clutch is in the car.
If I adjust the clutch, am I looking for a higher or lower pedal?
Thank you for your help
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Re: manual trans question
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06/08/11 01:30 PM
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I had the same problem with 3rd gear in my Road Runner, no grinding, it just wouldn't go into gear most of the time. I did the same thing as you, adjust rods and rebuild shifter, but neither fixed the problem. I pulled the trans and found the 3-4 synchro sleeve worn. I replaced it and it shifts perfectly now. Hope this helps.
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Re: manual trans question
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06/08/11 04:51 PM
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It may not be relevant but under really hard acceleration it can be hard to get it into 2nd gear dur to worn/loose motor mount insulators.
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Re: manual trans question
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06/09/11 10:32 AM
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i had the problem a while back trying to shift at high rpm from 1st to 2nd,shifted ok just riding around, found the bushing in the crank was very tight(actually pulled out of crank when i removed the trans)so the syncs could not slow the speed of the shaft to shift.i put the roller bearing that fits where the conv snout goes and worked great. fixed the problem i had.
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Re: manual trans question
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06/09/11 02:11 PM
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Although if it is an 18 spline I believe you have to drop the cluster gear to remove tailshaft/stock.
Think about what you just said ... if you had to drop the cluster to get the taistock out that would mean it would also have to be dropped to put it back in. If so, how would you get the cluster shaft in after the tailstock is in ?!?!?! So no, you don't have to drop the cluster to get the tailstock out.
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Re: manual trans question
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06/09/11 02:22 PM
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If so, how would you get the cluster shaft in after the tailstock is in ?!?!?!
If it were the case you would do it the same way you have to do it assembling an overdrive 833
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