You are right Bill a ton of steet cars, vans and trucks. We made two passes and went home. Track was greasey as soon as you left the concrete, car looked like a snake going down track. Went to the Holt's T&T on Saturday and between the 30mph headwind and the cold weather and the green track we lifted two out of the three passes and spun like crazy on the third pass. I am sure you will have much more when you get the car on a good track and decent weather. poppaj