thank you guys for all the help,i really don't want to piss the wrong people off(and i'm sure the tech's will know i'm a newbie ),and i'm not shy about letting people know that i DON'T know,i found you get more help being clear about that,and will certainly talk to the other racers,my runner has driveshaft safety loops,seat belts,i gotta get a helmet.i will be trailering it up so i got a place to keep tires and tools plus parts,also so that i wouldn't need to worry about pushing it,knowing it would have to get me home afterwards.another post here about staging got me to ask this,either racer just stage to the first light then wait for the other to stage first light,then stage double light and watch nothing but the tree? drive around water box then back in? or avoid water box? sorry if this seems stupiedly trivial,and appreciate your guys's help