Doug on a prior brake thread 4 or 5 people touted Ceramic shoes & no mention of them eating drums which(from reports) would for sure be a problem w velvetouch(or other metallic) shoes. I was just thinking that $65 to your door might not be a bad deal(& it would depend on the cold performance and how fast they gobbled up those(not cheap) drums). they'll work for me in my app as I need the lightest weight I can get by with & still have enough sq in of area to stop adequately & 9" used early A drums are cheap & I certainly wont have a problem with running cool