I still like Pinks All-out. The original Pinks just does not work for me but All-out is cool. All-out has always been kinda of goofy from the beginning but I can over look that part of it. Same goes for Pass Time( another of Rich C's ideas supposedly). Goofy in a way but I really like it. I never thought A televised bracket type racing event would get enough sponsors or ratings to make it.