when you guys talk about a low apply valve body are you talking about valves bodies with a brake?this is a very good post.thanks GregZ.i have three of Frank Lupo`s 9 inch converters.not very impressive.i bought one in 1992 that was a great converter.but the two i have now are not even close to my first one.car runs 10.99 @ 124.50 with a 1.60 60ft.wish i had never traded in my first one.Brad