Greenblurr........ If this is the problem, and I think there is no doubt, I could kiss you!!!!!(but you are probably a big hairy guy, so I won't.) I took the starter out tonight and after all of the swearing and straining and farting involved in taking out the starter in a big block e body, I found the end of the positive cable where it bolts to the top of the starter looking like this. Think this may be the problem??? Thanks guys for all of the help. I am going to get the starter checked again anyhow , since it is out. Jason






that figures... the picture won't load. anyhow, the bottom looks like it was chewed off and out of the big thick cable, only about 1/3 of the copper cable strands are still connected.