Well Ill let you overly sensitive Hemi guys have your fun. But let me know when one of you can bolt together a 525" NA Hemi that can go 170 in a 2975lb car. It was not even a max effort deal, it was in a .90 car Hell it replaced a Stage V Millenium Headed 572 that could not get out of its own way and only managed to go 161 at 3100lbs, in the same car. Similar builds using similar components. Both bracket deals that ran .90 stuff. Hell I could go as fast on the stop with the wedge as the Hemi ran all out at 10.90. Hell show me your NA Hemi combos running 190 in a 2350lb car, Ill wait. Those are some of the Wedge engines I have run over the years. But wait theres more, how bout 170 with a 416" SB in a 2750lb car as well, it aint a hemi head either, but at least thats attainable power for one