Originally Posted by MoparJ
Originally Posted by Frankenduster
I have driven almost 30,000 miles already this year so whatever I do, I can't make this truck eat a lot more gas or throw MIL codes.
I'm taking in all the suggestions and considering several things.
I looked at a 6.1 with 84,000 miles. The man wanted $5500. That is REALLY steep compared to a $1500 5.7 with the same mileage.
I am leaning toward a low mile 5.7 and using a 6.1 cam with those shorty headers. To me, that should not adversely affect the mileage or throw any codes.
I can get 3.92 gears from a wreck for a good price or just swap over the whole axle. New gears will be digging into the wallet deeper than I'm ready to do. Maybe the 3.92 isn't much of an increase over the 3.55 but I know with a car I can feel the difference between a 3.55 and a 3.91.


Although not a huge seat of the pants difference, you will still feel the 3.92 gear, particularly on the low end. The effects on fuel mileage will be insignificant at the most. Probably speaking the obvious, but it is probably time to check on the u joints at the same time as a gear swap.

If you do go anything but a stock 5.7, you will need to get a programmer in order to shut the MDS (cylinder deactivation) function off in the PCM, Speaking the obvious, you will need the proper non MDS lifters to go with a 6.1 or any other cam.

Considering you will need the tune for the different cam setup, you may as well have someone such as Jay Greene or Hemifever Tuning write a custom tune to help free up some torque management and additional power.

Hell, even if you went with a stock 5.7 and remained with a 3.55 (add normal bolt ons such as cold air intake, headers, exhaust), a custom tune will make the truck feel much more lively than current.

Justin



You do NOT need to swap lifters to delete the MDS, you can simply leave the MDS solenoids in and unpluggegd, or you can buy plugs from me specially made for doing exactly this that look much better than leaving the solenoids in that are unlike others sold anywhere else or you could just run the MDS with the 6.1 cam. Adding the 6.1 cam and removing the MDS are both going to adversely affect your MPG as will swapping gears, )I have 4.10s in my truck and hate em). 6.1s are usually $3500 and ocasionally a tic under $3000 all accross the US.

http://www.car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi?userSearch=int&userPID=1000&userLocation=USA&userIMS=&userInterchange=E%3EC%3EO&userSide=&userDate=2008&userDate2=2008&dbModel=22.8.1.1&userModel=Dodge%20Challenger%20(Chrysler)&dbPart=300.1&userPart=Engine&sessionID=14000000011045990&userPreference=price&userZip=59901&userLat=48.1017000&userLong=-113.7517000&userIntSelect=460943&userUID=0&userBroker=&iKey=&userPage=3

I don't know if that link will work or not but there a 2 under $3000 with under 80,000 miles right now and about 30 in the $3500 range.

A low mile 6.1 will make 400+ HP plus significantly more TQ and it will run fine with the 5.7 tuning if you want to defer some of the cost of tuning up front you can do it later. A 6.1 cam and shorty headers on a 5.7 is a nice little upgrade but it will not get you 50+ HP and 40 pounds of TQ. I have done this stuff, it works. It will still use a little more fuel but the higher compression will offset some of the loss.


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