Originally Posted By cataclysm80

It seems like the *2 at the end of the Leaf Spring Wheel Rate Formula shouldn't be there.

Using 70 B body as an example, distance between leaf spring perches is 44 inches, divided by track width of 59.2 inches = .7432432 motion ratio.
that motion ratio squared is .5524104
multiplied by a 160 pound spring rate = 88.38566
then when you multiply that by 2, you get 176.77132
It seems odd that the wheel rate would be higher than the spring rate.

Originally Posted By TC@HP2

In this case, the spring must be doubled, because the original formula was to determine total roll couple, not isolated spring rate. Since you clipped it out of context of the rest of the formulas, the *2 appears to double the spring rate for a single spring. Rather it is doubling the spring rate in the overall picture of the whole rear roll rate of two springs and a single anti-roll bar. So, you have 176.77# for the two leaf spring rates. You now need motion ratio adjusted sway bar rates to know the total rear roll couple rate.


I'm pretty sure that I understand what you're saying. smile


Just to be clear though (which may also help anyone else reading along), Here is the Rear Roll Couple formula as it was presented above.

Originally Posted By Uhcoog1

Rear Roll Couple = (Leaf Spring wheel rate * 2) + rear sway bar wheel rate


It makes perfect sense. There are two leaf springs, so you multiply the spring rate by 2.
I'm not using a rear sway bar on the car (yet), so I don't have to worry about that part of the formula.
I do need to calculate a leaf spring wheel rate though, so I look for the formula, and it's presented as...

Originally Posted By Uhcoog1

Leaf spring wheel rate = (listed rate) * ((leaf spring width / track width)^2) * 2


I recognize that the middle portion "(leaf spring width / track width)" is the motion ratio of the leaf springs.

Using 70 B body as an example, distance between leaf spring perches is 44 inches, divided by track width of 59.2 inches = .7432432 motion ratio.
that motion ratio squared is .5524104
multiplied by a 160 pound spring rate = 88.38566

I believe you're saying that the "Leaf Spring Wheel Rate" formula should Not include the "*2" on the end.

Also, that the leaf spring wheel rate does get multiplied by 2 in the "Rear Roll Couple" formula.

And that multiplying the leaf spring wheel rate by 2 in Both formulas (as it's shown) would result in an incorrect answer.