Whatever your thoughts at least we know there is a young group of engineers having fun with V8 RWD platforms and corporate is running with the ball. As close as we've come in the past to it dyeing off , performance lives on. My thought was back when the 4.7 came out it would have been great if they would have made the 2 door Avenger about 4" longer in the front, rwd, and perhaps it would have become our "mustang".