Steve1118, I was definitely talking about current NASCAR stuff that ends up on ebag, RJ and other sites. Some hi dollar stuff for little money. Sizes in the 6.2, 6.3, 6.4 length with 2" crank pin but with usually a less than normal size wrist pin. Altho every now and then you can find them with a .927 or a .931 size pin. Sizes that could definitely be built around!!!!