No disagreement there, I have a vehicle with a champinion, but I was wondering if they used expoxy or were all welded? Looks like it in the photos. Tim

1941 Taylorcraft
1968 Charger
1994 Wrangler
1998 Wrangler
2008 Kia Rio
2017 Jetta

I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!