After the last screwing I got from Charlie himself, I declare that I will never have another Charlies pan on anything I own.

My last experience.....lets just say it wasn't good. Could have gotten a lot better pan for what I had to invest in fixing my new Charlies pan. If you think a Charlies pan is nice then you must have never had a Williams or Billet Fab. I waited a lifetime to finally get my Williams pan, but it did fit out of the box.