Yeah, Rick, my point was to illustrate the development of the 4-speed manual in American cars. Some of the Board members are not old enough to realize that just getting a decent 4-speed in an American car was at one time impossible. And, four-speeds were added to US cars for performance.

Both the A833OD and the Ford Toploader OD transmissions were quick cheap fixes to the quest for a "gas-saving" gear in the early to mid '70s. They were cobbled together at a time when engine power was going down and you could get an optional 400 in place of the regular production 440 in a Chrysler car to "save gas."

R.

Remember the magazine articles about installing an overdrive unit from a Saginaw 3-speed onto/into a Saginaw 4-speed? It would have been trick if the transmission was strong enough to take the torque of a 327!