Thanks for the info I think I'm going to call PTC,ATI and Ultimate Monday and see what they have to say. Not to start a pissing match but what exactly was the problem with the PTC and was it recently. PM me if you don't want to post it here. I've had some well respected people recommend them. Some people like dynamic. They missed my last converter by a mile (8inch 5000) which only flashed 3400 and then wanted me to pay for them to fix it and that wasn't going to happen and didn't, needless to say they will never get another penny from me.