thanks jack , i,ve been reading all the posts about gary , i don't know what to say , i met him at norwalk 2 years ago at his moparts, cook out in the pits, he did not know me at all i went over with pro stock [tom] he fed me like i was family!! last year at big bear mopar nats we B.S ed alot , he was the one to set me up with the" moparts sponsor " to go down to hot rod pump gas drags !!!! i was floored when prostock called me an told me the terrible news this is such a TRAGEDY to this board and every one he came in contact with !!!!!!!mostly his family ! this really SUCKS ,jim