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1009 gasket #2516408 07/02/18 02:48 PM 07/02/18 02:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	40 over RB.they dont hang over into the bore but they do slightly hang past the bevel in a few spots. is that going to be a problem?

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516421 07/02/18 03:07 PM 07/02/18 03:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	From what I've seen, YES. I've used them on 4.375" bores, but there were no remaining factory chamfers on the tops of the cylinders (just a small break on the edge by the machinist) and no overhang in the cylinder heads' chambers. IIRC, the pics I've seen of 1009 failures could all be traced to the fire ring being exposed by one or both of those conditions. No idea why they're listed for anything larger than a 4.375" bore, since that's the max I've seen where they can fit w/o some type of overhang issue.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516441 07/02/18 03:28 PM 07/02/18 03:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,997 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,997 Oregon	Don't try to save money on the head gaskets unless you're dead broke and fixing an engine on the side of the road so you can get the family to town before the banjos start playing......

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516454 07/02/18 03:49 PM 07/02/18 03:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,916 usa L lewtot184 master
lewtot184 master L Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,916 usa	I won't use a 1009 on a 4.32" bore or larger. had them burn thru and torch alum heads.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: lewtot184] #2516470 07/02/18 04:39 PM 07/02/18 04:39 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl B bonefish OP master
bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	whats the alternative? does FelPro make a oversize gasket?

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: lewtot184] #2516490 07/02/18 05:24 PM 07/02/18 05:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,127 Bend,OR USA	Originally Posted By lewtot184 I won't use a 1009 on a 4.32" bore or larger. Check the bore size on all of the Fel Pro head gaskets. Cometecs will make any bore size you may need on their head gaskets Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516502 07/02/18 05:53 PM 07/02/18 05:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted By bonefish whats the alternative? does FelPro make a oversize gasket? More than one, but you don't mention CR or deck height or anything else that would help narrow down the choice. 1. The "standard" Permatorque replacementis supposed to have a compressed thickness of approx. .040" and is pretty close to a 4.50" ID. It's not a high-CR type of gasket, though, and most recommendations I hear say not to use much over 10:1 w/ it. 2. The "marine" gasket is the same dimensions as the standard Permatorque, only the construction is supposed to be like the 1009, with the exception of not having the wire reinforcement in the fire ring. 3. There are some dedicated performance gaskets similar to the 1009, only with 4.50" bores. However, those also have compressed thickness of approx. .050", which can jack-up your quench if your pistons are at zero deck height and you're trying to keep it tight. If you look for something other than Fel-Pro, IMO avoid the Mr. Gasket MLS stuff.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516508 07/02/18 06:03 PM 07/02/18 06:03 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,560 Downtown Roebuck Ont Twostick Still wishing...
Twostick Still wishing... Joined: May 2003 Posts: 6,560 Downtown Roebuck Ont	They hung over the chamfer on my 4.350 493. It's only a 9:1 engine so we rolled the dice on their replacement gaskets that come in the gasket set. They were 4.410 IIRC. At the time none of their other "good" large bore gaskets had .039 compressed thickness. Made a bunch of dyno pulls and it pulled my New Yorker around without complaint. Kevin

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516634 07/02/18 10:55 PM 07/02/18 10:55 PM
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CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Fel Pro 17059 RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516641 07/02/18 11:05 PM 07/02/18 11:05 PM
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ozymaxwedge super stock O Joined: Sep 2015 Posts: 1,096 Australia	Have a read of the label on the 1009, it says something along the lines of Chrysler big block "exc" 440 and hemi. I just put some on the shelf and purchased Cometic$ 1963 Plymouth Max Wedge 1971 Barracuda

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: lewtot184] #2516692 07/03/18 12:05 AM 07/03/18 12:05 AM
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4406bbl top fuel 4 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,908 Nebraska	Originally Posted By lewtot184 I won't use a 1009 on a 4.32" bore or larger. had them burn thru and torch alum heads. They will burn and torch a slot between cylinders on steel heads also. 4.35 bore, small chamfer, lots of spray, not overhanging.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: ozymaxwedge] #2516695 07/03/18 12:10 AM 07/03/18 12:10 AM
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4406bbl top fuel 4 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,908 Nebraska	Originally Posted By ozymaxwedge Have a read of the label on the 1009, it says something along the lines of Chrysler big block "exc" 440 and hemi. I just put some on the shelf and purchased Cometic$ Never saw that on a package, I read 361-440 exc hemi.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516717 07/03/18 12:52 AM 07/03/18 12:52 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,587 Great Neck,LI,new york	Cometic are the best.I think they also offer several choices on compressed thickness. HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #2516793 07/03/18 10:14 AM 07/03/18 10:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually B BradH Taking time off to work on my car
BradH Taking time off to work on my car B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 15,439 Val-haul-ass... eventually	Originally Posted By CompWedgeEngines Fel Pro 17059 Yeah, that's the # of the marine gasket I mentioned above... couldn't remember the part #.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2516819 07/03/18 11:39 AM 07/03/18 11:39 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,866 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,866 Ontario, Canada	Quote: Cometic are the best.I think they also offer several choices on compressed thickness. As long as the block and heads have been finished for an MLS gasket. Otherwise you should use a standard style gasket.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: BradH] #2517159 07/03/18 08:03 PM 07/03/18 08:03 PM
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bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	its 9.5-1 comp. 0 deck, 4.150 stroker. the marine gasket is pretty big but would prob. work.i will lose some quench with the marine gasket. Originally Posted By BradH Originally Posted By bonefish whats the alternative? does FelPro make a oversize gasket? More than one, but you don't mention CR or deck height or anything else that would help narrow down the choice. 1. The "standard" Permatorque replacementis supposed to have a compressed thickness of approx. .040" and is pretty close to a 4.50" ID. It's not a high-CR type of gasket, though, and most recommendations I hear say not to use much over 10:1 w/ it. 2. The "marine" gasket is the same dimensions as the standard Permatorque, only the construction is supposed to be like the 1009, with the exception of not having the wire reinforcement in the fire ring. 3. There are some dedicated performance gaskets similar to the 1009, only with 4.50" bores. However, those also have compressed thickness of approx. .050", which can jack-up your quench if your pistons are at zero deck height and you're trying to keep it tight. If you look for something other than Fel-Pro, IMO avoid the Mr. Gasket MLS stuff. Last edited by bonefish; 07/03/18 08:03 PM.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2517359 07/04/18 11:09 AM 07/04/18 11:09 AM
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fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,493 So. Burlington, Vt.	Al, I thought that motor was getting 906 heads. If so, and it doesn’t have quench dome pistons...... there won’t be any quench anyway. 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: fast68plymouth] #2517445 07/04/18 01:32 PM 07/04/18 01:32 PM
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bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	Originally Posted By fast68plymouth Al, I thought that motor was getting 906 heads. If so, and it doesn’t have quench dome pistons...... there won’t be any quench anyway. these are the pistons,the pad is a 0 deck. Last edited by bonefish; 07/04/18 01:52 PM.

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: bonefish] #2517657 07/04/18 08:09 PM 07/04/18 08:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,493 So. Burlington, Vt. F fast68plymouth I Live Here
fast68plymouth I Live Here F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 14,493 So. Burlington, Vt.	If you’ll be using open chamber heads, it won’t have effective quench. Unless the heads have been milled .080 and you’re going to run .020 thick gaskets. 68 Satellite, 383 with stock 906’s, 3550lbs, 11.18@123 Dealer for Comp Cams/Indy Heads

Re: 1009 gasket [Re: fast68plymouth] #2517832 07/05/18 08:53 AM 07/05/18 08:53 AM
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bonefish OP master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	thanks ,i guess ill go with the marine gaskets.

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