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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/01/11 09:57 AM
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I'm putting the stock 5.9 Magnum roller in my '87 318 to go in the 64DOG. It's bigger than the 318 roller, about like the 360 stock cam. But I'm running 3.23s and 32.5" tall rears so torque is important.
My question is what water pump to use on the 87 block to make the radiator hoses line up on the 64 318Poly radiator?
Thanks,
R.
say bye bye to your engine in short order...as far as I remember, OEM magnum cams don't have the oil holes in the #2 & #4 cam journals to oil the top end of an LA motor.
for $150, have bullet cams regrind your LA roller with their HR259/316 or HR258/320 lobe, and on the LA use comp #901's or hughes #1110 springs, eliminating exhaust rotators if you have them.
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/01/11 10:12 AM
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I'm putting the stock 5.9 Magnum roller in my '87 318 to go in the 64DOG.
The 5.2 has a larger roller than the 5.9, but not enough to get real excited about.
No oiling provisions to the LA heads as somone else already pointed out with the OEM magnum cam, a lot of the aftermarket cams do though.
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/01/11 02:14 PM
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First things first, my camshaft which I think is a CS-1558, has the rocker oiling holes and a long snout for the fuel pump drive. I believe lift is right at 0.400 for both intake and exhaust. I have moved and most of my catalogs are still in boxes. This cam is listed for all roller 360s as well as 5.9 mags.
Second, the replacement lifters for roller 318, 360, 5.2 and 5.9 are all the same number. There is NO DIFFERENCE in roller lifters from 5.2 to 5.9.
Third, if you check your catalogs I believe you will find the 318 roller cams are clones of the ultra-wimpy flat-tappet 318 cam with about 0.370 lift on the intake. The 360 roller version is more like 0.398 on an LA and 0.424 on the Mag motor.
Fourth, the question of which water pump will work with the 87 LA and the 64Poly radiator is still out there. I haven't really studied this as it is easier to ask here.
Fifth, what headers have you used for a 318-powered 67 D100? They don't have to last more than 3 years.
Thanks,
R.
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/01/11 03:36 PM
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If you're talking about this intake: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-340...=item5882e82ab0I recently got one from this seller. Be aware, it is NOT a Professional Products intake, it is a ProComp. Due to scheduling issues I haven't installed it yet, and I do have some apprehension about using it. The casting has a crude appearance and there is definitely some core shift in the ports (they cleaned the edges with a burr, presumably to make the ports match). It may just have cosmetic issues and work A-OK -- or it might not seal. I bought it specifically for teh LA/Mag bolting provisions and because I thought it was a Crosswind. Unless you are on a tight budget, or are willing to take a risk, or want both bolting provisions, I'd recommend getting an Eddy manifold. For a little more slightly-related reading: http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/procomp-single-plane-intakes-137169.html
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/01/11 03:42 PM
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5.2's have more lift, but less duration
Here's a related thread on the cams:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...&PHPSESSID=
I suspect the OEM goal was to give a similar-shaped torque curve between 5.2 and 5.9. The intake manifold was the same, so the cam was tweaked as needed. (obviously the 5.9's curve is higher)
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/02/11 11:09 AM
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patrick
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First things first, my camshaft which I think is a CS-1558, has the rocker oiling holes and a long snout for the fuel pump drive. I believe lift is right at 0.400 for both intake and exhaust. I have moved and most of my catalogs are still in boxes. This cam is listed for all roller 360s as well as 5.9 mags.
Second, the replacement lifters for roller 318, 360, 5.2 and 5.9 are all the same number. There is NO DIFFERENCE in roller lifters from 5.2 to 5.9.
Third, if you check your catalogs I believe you will find the 318 roller cams are clones of the ultra-wimpy flat-tappet 318 cam with about 0.370 lift on the intake. The 360 roller version is more like 0.398 on an LA and 0.424 on the Mag motor.
Fourth, the question of which water pump will work with the 87 LA and the 64Poly radiator is still out there. I haven't really studied this as it is easier to ask here.
Fifth, what headers have you used for a 318-powered 67 D100? They don't have to last more than 3 years.
Thanks,
R.
hmm..long snout, oil holes, and ~.4" lift at the valve? sounds like a stock 318 cam from an M body (they were .390" lift at the valve, .26" at the lobe IIRC)
you could have an '89-91 LA 360 roller cam, but AFAIK they were all short snout because they were all TBI.
all replacement roller lifters available now are magnum style. the original lifters in my '86's roller teen don't have oiling provisions.
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2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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Re: Questions? Help!
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06/02/11 11:12 AM
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If you're talking about this intake:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MOPAR-340...=item5882e82ab0
I recently got one from this seller. Be aware, it is NOT a Professional Products intake, it is a ProComp. Due to scheduling issues I haven't installed it yet, and I do have some apprehension about using it.
The casting has a crude appearance and there is definitely some core shift in the ports (they cleaned the edges with a burr, presumably to make the ports match). It may just have cosmetic issues and work A-OK -- or it might not seal.
I bought it specifically for teh LA/Mag bolting provisions and because I thought it was a Crosswind. Unless you are on a tight budget, or are willing to take a risk, or want both bolting provisions, I'd recommend getting an Eddy manifold.
For a little more slightly-related reading:
http://www.hotrodders.com/forum/procomp-single-plane-intakes-137169.html
a chinese knockoff company was copied and undercut by another chinese knockoff company? isn't anything sacred? 
1976 Spinnaker White Plymouth Duster, /6 A833OD
1986 Silver/Twilight Blue Chrysler 5th Ave HotRod **SOLD!***
2011 Toxic Orange Dodge Charger R/T
2017 Grand Cherokee Overland
2014 Jeep Cherokee Latitude (holy crap, my daughter is driving)
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