Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: Grant]
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05/09/11 11:34 PM
05/09/11 11:34 PM
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Valve tapping? Theres no reason that the inside of the motor should have been affected by the swap. If you had to modify the exhaust for the swap, maybe you are hearing an exhaust leak? The grinding sound....with your hand on the shifter, can you feel a corresponding vibration in the shifter? If so, the clutch linkage could be binding or just out of adjustment. What type of clutch and pressure plate did you use? If it had what appears to be multiple flat steel "fingers" where the throwout bearing rides, then it is a Diaphragm design. These usually require one extra step to work correctly: Under the dash, where the clutch pedal swings/pivots from, there is a thick spring. This is called the OVERcenter spring. It needs to be removed for the clutch pedal to work properly. I have an ongoing project car that acts just like yours. It has the Diaphragm clutch and is too soft. To me, that equates to slippage under a heavy load. I'll probably swap to a stiffer clutch by the time this car actually sees street duty. Finally..... Make sure that the transmission shifter linkage is adjusted properly. It sounds unlikely, but it IS possible to have the linkage adjusted just wrong enough to partially engage TWO gears at the same time. This WILL stall the motor for certain.
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: Commando1]
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05/10/11 10:26 AM
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By the way i'm 19 years old so...
That's not an easy thing for any teenager to do. Congrats on rolling up your sleeves and doing some knuckle skinning.
yes it's alot of work , I cut my teeth on an a 4 speed swap when I was 17 on my fathers DAILY DRIVER by myself, car was down for months
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: Grant]
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05/10/11 04:54 PM
05/10/11 04:54 PM
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him baffled by how this happened. so I ripped the granny out last night
??????????????????????? Uhhh, Typo?
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: Grant]
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05/10/11 05:41 PM
05/10/11 05:41 PM
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could the valve tap be caused by when I turned over the engine by hand??
I recently fired up my low mile engine (having all new valve train components) after a couple of month’s downtime during which I had the transmission and clutch out for several changes/upgrades, including verifying bellhousing run-out, involving numerous hand rotations of the crankshaft to complete. Very alarmed at the initial valve train noise, as a matter of fact, shut it down immediately to pull inspection cover off and take a look, it took several minutes to clear up on it's own completely. All lifters subjected to full spring pressures, several times, without oil pressure must have led to almost complete bleed down.
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: buildanother]
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05/10/11 06:41 PM
05/10/11 06:41 PM
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If you turned crank backwards during flywheel or pressure plate install, it could have pulled some oil out of a lifter causing brief ticking on startup.
You're kidding, right ?!?!?!?
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: buildanother]
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05/10/11 10:26 PM
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If you turned crank backwards during flywheel or pressure plate install, it could have pulled some oil out of a lifter causing brief ticking on startup.
You're kidding, right ?!?!?!?
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Not really.
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Re: 4 speed conversion problem HELP!
[Re: stumpy]
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05/11/11 01:20 AM
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No way turning the engine backwards will remove oil from a lifter. Lifters don't know or care which way an engine turns.
This isn't even an urban myth. Its an urban misunderstanding.
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