Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
[Re: ogopogo]
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05/09/11 10:08 PM
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anything that has sat for 20 years must come apart. the fact that you didn't assemble it back then and have no knowledge of it's internals make it a double must.
home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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I don't like the idea of some valve springs being compressed all that time. I take the rockers off every time my motor sits for more than 3 months.. If it wasn't for that I would prime it and fire it.
Jim
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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20 years is a fairly long time. It might be fine, but I wouldnt take the chance. Heck, a mouse could have found its way and made a nest somewhere, you just dont know. The biggest concern I would have would be a valve seizing in a guide, a ring sticking/breaking, or a lifter not rotating. The chain issue is probably no concern. Soak it in a container of oil. Usually they loosen a bit when they "break in" anyway. Just tear it apart and take a look. Especially on a resto, you dont want to have to do it twice. MB
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
[Re: ogopogo]
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05/09/11 11:39 PM
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Run it.
I have twin 454's in my boat, its been together for 20 years. I run it up to an hour at a time at max torque. Been sitting for 3 years, I just started it up 2 weeks ago and it ran fine.
Heat & fatigue kills springs, not static compression.
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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05/10/11 12:09 PM
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Deep down inside i know it should come apart I suppose,I dont like the idea of running an unknown camshaft in a resto either,the front of the cam didnt have numbers,maybe the rear will? I'll pull the heads and take them in,how much clearance should the guides have on a hemi? Are the headgaskets reusable? they are steel shim and I have several new sets here so it doesnt really matter,I had heard as long as the engine hasnt been run they can be reused.Anything else I should specificly check? The cam gear on the timing chain has a casting date of 1982,maybe its even been close to 30yrs its been sitting, the former owner of the engine as well as the engine builder are both deceased now so I have no way of knowing.
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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05/10/11 12:36 PM
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Use new head gaskets. Make sure and coat them too. I would really like to know what the exact time is that a compressed spring will be expired at. 1 day? 1 week? 1 month? 4 months 2 weeks and 5 days? Whatever the # is, I'd turn my engine over before that.
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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05/10/11 12:41 PM
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a good machine shop will have a cam profiler, that will measure lift and duration, which will tell you if it's a stock replacement or a race cam. then you will know if you want to use that cam, or buy a different one.
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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05/10/11 12:48 PM
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A lot of cams have the numbers on the rear of the cam. As far as stem to guide clearance goes,
.001-.0014 on intake new .0016-.002 on exh new depends on application
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Re: Rebuilt hemi ,sat for 20 yrs, run it?
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my big concern would be the crankshaft plus rod and main bearings being new ,used or incorrect clearances.That can get very expensive if they are wrong or bad. Another factor to consider is the valve seats being corroded or pitted when it sat all those years with the valves open. It would not be a stretch for the rings to be stuck especially with a cast pistons
home of the Sox and Martin Hemi Duster
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