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Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? #988921
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Just about ready to order the rocker arms. What does everyone like? Jesel or T&D. .550 offset good with the .210 offset lifters? Or does it need more to not have to touch the heads? Not doing any porting to the heads.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #988922
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You gonna run a offset lifter in a 59* block? Ive been told that will snap the link bars. And I believe it.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #988923
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Not sure about magnum block and lifters, but i run the T&D W9rp rocker with .750" offset, and centered lifters and had to do a bit of clearencing on the heads with a 7/16" pushrod in a 59* X block. Never had any issue with the couple sets of T&Ds I've used. I havent run Jesels ..


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Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: Hot 340] #988924
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Really? I have never heard that. I was going off what Shady Dell had on his website.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #988925
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I think it depends on how much offset the rocker is. Are they 48 heads or 59s?

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: Hot 340] #988926
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Its a 59 degree head/block with a solid roller. This is from Ryans website.

To make the situation better, you can use an offset intake lifter. The problem here is that most lifter companies do not cater well to the Mopar crowd when it comes to offset lifters. In fact to the best of my knowledge, no Hydraulic or Flat tappet lifters exist in .904" Chrysler diameter. A couple companies offer an offset Solid Roller lifter, and generally speaking, when you are thinking of running a W7/8/9 head, you are probably already thinking of running a roller anyhow. One of the problems I ran into was the fact that the Comp Cams #892 "Super Roller" lifters don't fit 59 degree blocks? No way, no how. The rivet design on them will not clear the lifter valley area, even with intense grinding. You will most likely hit the water jacket if you try to make these rivets clear. The lifter I am currently recommending that everyone use is a Crane .903" Chevy Solid Roller lifter with a .210" intake offset pushrod cup, and then have Crane install Chrysler "V" Link bars on them. In a factory block, these will allow a 3/8" pushrod to be used. If you want to use a Hydraulic or Flat tappet cam, then I am recommending just use the standard non offset AMC style lifters, and a 5/16" Heavy wall pushrod like a Smith Brothers .080" wall Chrome Moly unit.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #988927
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You will prolly be ok with 59 heads. Ryan told me (still have the PM) that an offset lifter wont work with 59* block and a 48* head.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: Hot 340] #988928
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Ah ok, probably a geometry problem.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: ADakotaRTGuy] #988929
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Anyhow, never heard anything bad about T&D ever. the choice is easy.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: Hot 340] #988930
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T&D is right here in my back yard and I get to see all the different rockers they build. I my opinion they are the best deal out there. Once you buy a set the customer service is above and beyond anybody else.

Call Sheldon @ T&D and tell him Bob from Moparts sent you.

Re: Jesel or T&D for W9 Heads on a Magnum Race block? [Re: Biginchmopar] #988931
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Thanks guys. T&D it is.







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