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Basic Altenator question! #985894
05/04/11 01:17 AM
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I am messing around with my alternator on my 71 charger. The alternator has 3 connections coming off of it. My understanding is these are called a BAT terminal, No1 Terminal and No2 Terminal. So why are there 3 terminals rather then just a single one delivering the current? I am pretty sure i am overlooking something basic.

Re: Basic Altenator question! [Re: BigAg] #985895
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Dual field.

edit: This is my understanding of how they work and why you need the extra wiring...

Mopar alternators, unlike the preceding generators don't use permanent magnets in their construction. The electric "field" that is created when a 12 volt source is supplied to the connections you see marked as 1 & 2, essencially creates electric magnets in the housing around the spinning stator, which are used with the stator to generate electric A/C current. That current is then passed through a device with diodes called a rectifier to change it to DC current.

They used to use single field alternators, but as the need for more electrical power grew, the addition of the second field to create dual field system was an easy way to trick the alternator into thinking it was two alternators by effectively doubling the amount of electric magnets inside the alternator.

By controlling(switching on and off) the relatively lower field voltage to the electric magnets, the higher current output of the alternator can be controlled and regulated to adjust the alternators output.

This design eliminates the need for a switch on the high current output side of the alternator to control voltage, which would be large and wear out quickly, especially as the output of electrical systems increased.

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Re: Basic Altenator question! [Re: BigAg] #985896
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Quote:

I am messing around with my alternator on my 71 charger. The alternator has 3 connections coming off of it. My understanding is these are called a BAT terminal, No1 Terminal and No2 Terminal. So why are there 3 terminals rather then just a single one delivering the current? I am pretty sure i am overlooking something basic.


Using your labels, BAT terminal goes straight to the battery to charge it. No1 goes to 12volts source for the field, No2 goes to the solid state regulator that controls charging by varying the amount of current flowing through the field. You need three terminals because the regulator is mounted on the firewall away from the heat of the alternator. More wires but better reliability.
Craig


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Quote:

Using your labels, BAT terminal goes straight to the battery to charge it. No1 goes to 12volts source for the field, No2 goes to the solid state regulator that controls charging by varying the amount of current flowing through the field. You need three terminals because the regulator is mounted on the firewall away from the heat of the alternator. More wires but better reliability.
Craig




Be aware that the wire from the battery terminal on your alternator to the battery actually goes through the bulkhead connector, across your amp guage and back out the bulkhead connector to your starter relay via fusable link and finally onto the battery to provide charge.

This, while factory, is not neccessarily the ideal path between the alternator and the battery.


1970 Plymouth 'Cuda #'s 440-6(block in storage)currently 493" 6 pack, Shaker, 5 speed Passon, 4.10's
1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
Re: Basic Altenator question! [Re: jbc426] #985898
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FYI you can put the blue and the green field wires on either of the alt small field terminals though they were all done the same way on the assembly line for standardization and if your wire/terminal ends are hardened/set in a certain bend whichever choice/route lets them lay/look the best is fine.


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