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Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: NITROUSN] #968580
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Ain't no stinkin (alignment) dowels.





There are two stinking dowels between the bellhousing and motor.




Scott

1969 Super Bee, 383/4 speed


Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: StukaJU87] #968581
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Ain't no stinkin (alignment) dowels.





There are two stinking dowels between the bellhousing and motor.







Yah, Iknow that and of course both dowelss are there. Reread the way he wrote the question. It inferred that there were dowels 'tween the starter and the B.H.
I'll do the whistling around here. LMAO

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968582
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Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: dOrk !] #968583
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Ur havin such a hard time that I had to do a little sympathy whistlin for ya!

Sux man. Let us all know what the issue is/was when you get it figured out..

Dan


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Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968584
04/09/11 12:08 AM
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I'll do the whistling around here.




Maybe if you quit whistling you could fix your problem......Word of advice. You cant expect what you dont inspect. Something is wrong and you have to be overlooking something. Thats a lot of starters to go through.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: NITROUSN] #968585
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I'll do the whistling around here.




Maybe if you quit whistling you could fix your problem......Word of advice. You cant expect what you dont inspect. Something is wrong and you have to be overlooking something. Thats a lot of starters to go through.




HE is either or .... what else would you expect from a SELFprofessed curmudgeon ?

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Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: CR8CRSHR] #968586
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I would have to disagree with you on this one. The stock "Boat Anchors" require more current draw and perform less effectively than the mini-starters. I won't even touch the fact that header interference with the stock starters is a PITA. Come on...step up to the 21st century and start running those mini's....




These cars were built with those "20th century" starters. Sure the OEM units are a little tougher to get in and out, but I have NEVER had a problem with fitment isses with headers out of all the cars I have had. I have a pile of the mini starters laying in my shed. I refuse to use them. I dont want my Charger or my Fury sounding like a Nissan when its turning over


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Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968587
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Stan, the pics you posted of the Mancini starter, is that a pic from Mancinis file or the one you tried to install?
If that's the starter you have, remove the BATT + cable lug and the black plastic housing it's attached to. There's another lug under it you can hook the BATT + cable to. The lugs plastic housing interferes with a freeze plug boss, take it off and your home free.

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IF IT AIN'T BROKE - FIX IT TILL IT IS

Ya' BETTER pull this sig off your posts when talkin' to Ollie ....he follows THOSE "directions" really well !

JUST kiddin' Ollie ... ....or am I ?? ... ...

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: 69L78Nova] #968589
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have you tried to removing the dowl pins for the bell housing to aline the starter first?


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IF IT AIN'T BROKE - FIX IT TILL IT IS

Ya' BETTER pull this sig off your posts when talkin' to Ollie ....he follows THOSE "directions" really well !

JUST kiddin' Ollie ... ....or am I ?? ... ...




Doc, looks as if the old geezer fell asleep and is missing all this valuable info we're giving him.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: B5 Bee] #968591
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The old geezer ....

What a life he has ..... getting up at 11ish .... taking naps between CL searches .....

THEN he about having to go into-town to cash his fat pension check ... ...

WE should all BEE so lucky ...

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: B5 Bee] #968592
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Stan, the pics you posted of the Mancini starter, is that a pic from Mancinis file or the one you tried to install?
If that's the starter you have, remove the BATT + cable lug and the black plastic housing it's attached to. There's another lug under it you can hook the BATT + cable to. The lugs plastic housing interferes with a freeze plug boss, take it off and your home free.



Cecil: That lower pic is mine. And yes, I removed the extension part. I just put in back on for the picture.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: scratchnfotraction] #968593
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have you tried to removing the dowl pins for the bell housing to aline the starter first?




I'm not falling for that one.

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Maybe if you quit whistling you could fix your problem......Word of advice. You cant expect what you dont inspect. Something is wrong and you have to be overlooking something. Thats a lot of starters to go through.



I don't need your sarcasm. It started off as a simple question on whether there was anything more I needed to know (I did my due diligence FIRST by Googling and searching). The thread took on a life of it's own. I've replaced more starters than you've changed underwear. I'm not worried about figuring out what happened here.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968594
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He is alive ..... Hay Geez .... wasssupy ? ..

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968595
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I've replaced more starters than you've changed underwear.




By reading your post and the un-ability to correct your starter problem I would not argue with you on that statement.

FYI there was no sarcasm in my replies. I was trying to help. My comment on you cant expect what you dont inspect applies in a majority of unsolved issues.

Good luck. You have Doc F for support.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: 69L78Nova] #968596
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I would have to disagree with you on this one. The stock "Boat Anchors" require more current draw and perform less effectively than the mini-starters. I won't even touch the fact that header interference with the stock starters is a PITA. Come on...step up to the 21st century and start running those mini's....




These cars were built with those "20th century" starters. Sure the OEM units are a little tougher to get in and out, but I have NEVER had a problem with fitment issues with headers out of all the cars I have had. I have a pile of the mini starters laying in my shed. I refuse to use them. I don't want my Charger or my Fury sounding like a Nissan when its turning over




As it is your prerogative to do so... Just for the record though...the newer mini starters that are from a 90's era MOPAR do not sound like a Nissan during turn over. More like a fine tuned and efficient MOPAR sound...At least it does to me...

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: NITROUSN] #968597
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FYI there was no sarcasm in my replies. I was trying to help.



Then I sincerely apologize.
Doc got me cranked up this morning.

Re: What did I do wrong on my ministarter [Re: Commando1] #968598
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So, you did bench test it and it works fine?

Is it possible for you to install the starter and have room to use the same procedure you used when you bench tested it (i.e. bypassing the car's wiring/starter relay)?

You have a second set of eyes to help you?

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Doc got me cranked up this morning.




Wouldn't it be nice if when you put some d'bag on your ignore list that it wouldn't allow them to open or reply to anything the ignorer posted ?

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