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having problems with my machinist !!! #963305
03/31/11 09:49 PM
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As some of you know
I have posted about my massive oil leak and the cracked crank but I now found out that my ross pistons are to go with a 4.25 stroke and I just recieved my NEW 4.15 , so insted of being .007 in the hole im way down !! I called the guy who built it and he says NO WAY!! He could of made the rods longer ???? Is that possible?? HELP

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963306
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Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: earthmover] #963307
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Yeah no fake its only money!!

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963308
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take your stuff to some other shop.

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963309
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Yeah no fake its only money!!




Was it a error on his part for ordering the wrong
stroke... did you talk to him

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #963310
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Talk.... not really.I am in a state of shock!! motor leaked ,cracked crank,wrong crank or pistons depending the way you look at it.Then he says since you tore it apart I will only split the cost with you Any idea on making the rod longer????????????????????

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963311
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Talk.... not really.I am in a state of shock!! motor leaked ,cracked crank,wrong crank or pistons depending the way you look at it.Then he says since you tore it apart I will only split the cost with you Any idea on making the rod longer????????????????????




On the rod you have 2 choices... buy a longer set OR
cut your rods in half and weld in a chunk... and I dont
think the second one would be my choice... sell your
currant rods and buy longer ones... what size are
yours now and what do you figure you need
On the crank did you have a 4.25 in it and he ordered
a 4.15... why would he order a 4.15 if he knew you
had a 4.25.... this is the part I dont understamd

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963312
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I want to know how in this day and age someone could stay in business telling you that.
the %$%$# pss me off..
I feel for you..
I bust my hump as a residential contractor and go we beyond to make my customers happy..
a machinist like this should wither and die as far as i am concerned..
if people stuck it to machinist who pull this crap..they would not do this..
take them to court and prove a point...
but AHH we are too busy and really it to expensive and too much effort... I know...
but That relieves them of the consiquences, which recipricates the problem..
im in a raw mood..and will now step off the soap box...

chepast


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Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: cheapstreetdustr] #963313
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You dont know the half of it, the rings were not spread or gaped properly the main bolts were different lenth . and I bought a new crank going buy what i thought was in there.. imagine my suprise when i decided to call ross !!! NEW EAGLE CRANK FOR SALE!!

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963314
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I think I would be backing my truck up to his door and loading up my stuff and giving him a friendly wave on my way out of the parking lot, then drive it right on over to 84 pa. to a reputable shop (that we all know and love) and get it fixed right,,just my opinion, but I think I would be livid


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Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: dartman366] #963315
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Looks like your builder is questionable no doubt.

But, you have to take some blame on the crank. You state in your post you ordered the crank.

You already thought your builder might be a bonehead and YOU did not check the stroke on the old crank yourself before ordering a new one.

MAN, sorry you are having so much trouble with this thing. Sure wish you were working with a small block some of us could probably help you get what you need to fix everything.

Leon


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Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: Leon441] #963316
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you really cant call the guy a Machinist..
more like a grinder/parts assemble-er


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Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: runner12] #963317
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You dont know the half of it, the rings were not spread or gaped properly the main bolts were different lenth . and I bought a new crank going buy what i thought was in there.. imagine my suprise when i decided to call ross !!! NEW EAGLE CRANK FOR SALE!!




Why not call the place you got the crank from and see about doing a swap for a 4.25 ? Are the rods mopar big end or big block chevy at 2.2 ???

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: Leon441] #963318
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You are in Washington PA? That's real close to BG racing right? Might want to seek some assistance if they have some time as I understand they are super busy right now.

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: JohnRR] #963319
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You dont know the half of it, the rings were not spread or gaped properly the main bolts were different lenth . and I bought a new crank going buy what i thought was in there.. imagine my suprise when i decided to call ross !!! NEW EAGLE CRANK FOR SALE!!




Why not call the place you got the crank from and see about doing a swap for a 4.25 ? Are the rods mopar big end or big block chevy at 2.2 ???




I agree. See if they will exchange the crank for the correct stroke one, even if you have to cover the shipping it would be worth the effort. Then get your stuff over to a Mopar knowledgable shop and have EVERYTHING checked carefully! When things are going wrong like this, sometimes it's best to start with a fresh set of eyes on things.


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I agree that the crank could be swapped out for the correct 4.25. Even with a restocking fee, it would be much cheaper than ordering a new set of longer rods and hopefully selling the current ones.

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: RonP] #963321
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Well I never thought to question the stroke untill I checked the piston he put in . So I do not take any blame !!!!!!!! I did not buy or aasemble the engine I gave it to what I thought was a pro!! Now moving on .. the new crank is a eagle 4.150 with stock rod and mains for a 440.

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Well I never thought to question the stroke untill I checked the piston he put in . So I do not take any blame !!!!!!!! I did not buy or aasemble the engine I gave it to what I thought was a pro!! Now moving on .. the new crank is a eagle 4.150 with stock rod and mains for a 440.




What gave you the idea that is was a 4.15 vs. a 4.25?

But again , what rods do you currently have and have you tried to contact whomever you bought the crank from for a SWAP ????

Re: having problems with my machinist !!! [Re: JohnRR] #963323
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It helps but does not have to be a Mopar guy. But what it has to be is someone that works only on Race engines. If you go to a shop and they work on everything from imports to tractors....well you know what kind of workmanship you will get from them. I tried this last summer to keep from having to wait in line 3-4 weeks. Lets just say it was a "Mistake".

If they work on race engines and are good at it,that is all you will see in their shop.Because if they are good on Race engines they will have plenty of work. If there are no Big Mopar people to do your work,check around and find out who does all the work for the Pro-Mod racers. They take things to the next level,but it is well worth it in the end.


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Sorry for your problems, but how far down in the hole is the piston?


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