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Tow rigs UPDATE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #962000 03/29/11 09:33 PM 03/29/11 09:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	I had the chance to drive a 02 dodge 1 ron with the cummings in it, and I must say that I was not that impressed with the power. Maybe it was just that one but non the less it was slugish on low end. Now with that said it had 97000 miles on it. I also drove a 05 ford f350 and that thing was a beast in terms of performance. I have a chance of get the ford for about 15000 grand. Was wondering if anyone has towed with one, and how what it. Its a 6.0 powerstroke. Just looking for some input before I comit to anything. Thanks guys... Last edited by 70dusterjohn; 03/31/11 11:20 PM.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962001 03/29/11 09:38 PM 03/29/11 09:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,363 PA 7 70HemiGTX top fuel
70HemiGTX top fuel 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,363 PA	97,000 mi. That Cummins isn't broken in yet. I know the power is down on certain years because of the emissions, but don't know exactly which ones. I have a 95 3500, Cummins, 5 spd. Only a 185 hp engine. So it's one of the little ones. Wouldn't be afraid to put it up against most anything. It would hold it's own. Plus it only has 3.54 gears.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70HemiGTX] #962002 03/29/11 09:43 PM 03/29/11 09:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	The dodge is alot more money and I kinda wanted to stay around 15 grand. I know its not a lot but its what I have to work with. My 03 with 4.7 just doesnt have the legs it use to. I'd love to stay with the dodge but this just seems like a screaming deal. I dont know, looking at all these trucks the last couple of days is making my head spin.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962003 03/29/11 09:43 PM 03/29/11 09:43 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl. D dusturbd340W5 master
dusturbd340W5 master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,616 Kissimmee Fl.	Quote: I had the chance to drive a 02 dodge 1 ron with the cummings in it, and I must say that I was not that impressed with the power. Maybe it was just that one but non the less it was slugish on low end. Now with that said it had 97000 miles on it. I also drove a 05 ford f350 and that thing was a beast in terms of performance. I have a chance of get the ford for about 15000 grand. Was wondering if anyone has towed with one, and how what it. Its a 6.0 powerstroke. Just looking for some input before I comit to anything. Thanks guys... something must have been wrong with the truck I have had an 04 an 05 and now I have an 06 and they all had power to spear. I pull a 35' 16000# 5th wheel and have no problems getting it moving with my bone stock truck. I can run down the highway all day long at 80+ mph if I want to and when it is empty it will go 0-80 in a hurry for a 8000 ride. 70 duster full chassis super pro 416 CNC Indybrock heads 727 w/brake best so far 1.212 60 6.219 in 1/8 at 110.88 9.768 at 137.81 1/4

Re: Tow rigs [Re: dusturbd340W5] #962004 03/29/11 09:54 PM 03/29/11 09:54 PM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio 70dusterjohn OP top fuel
70dusterjohn OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,613 Deerfield, Ohio	Yeah, I must say that I was very disapointed in its performance. I cant afford a new one or,thats where I'd be heading. Doesn't anyone tow with a ford. I don't really want to by goverment motors, so its between the ford and dodge. But I'll have to keep looking if its going to be a dodge. I'm really not in a hurry to get anything but this one fell in my lap at a good price and don't know if I should just pass and wait or go ahead and get it.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962005 03/29/11 10:03 PM 03/29/11 10:03 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ D DragDart360 mopar
DragDart360 mopar D Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 492 South Jersey, NJ	6.0 Power Stroke do a google search then run far away as fast as you can! The Cummins, no G is a beast . Go to www.cumminsforum.com to learn more. If it didn't match power with the Ford something was seriously wrong. 70 Dart Swinger, 2850 lbs SB 408, Bullet roller 264/268 @50 .636 SSDS stage 2 Edelbrock heads, 1 7/8 Headmans, 1050 dominator by Dom, 9.867 @ 133

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962006 03/29/11 10:05 PM 03/29/11 10:05 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida B biff426 super stock
biff426 super stock B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida	From personal expierience STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM A 6.0 FORD AS YOU CAN GET you have been warned had 3 different trucks that our company owned all left me on the side of the road they were serviced at all the correct intervals and never beat on injector failures out the wazoo head gaskets EGR coolers oil coolers they have MAJOR ISSUES good power when they run the last one ford bought back.I own a 06 Mega cab cummins best truck I have ever owned do your research before you buy 6.0=junk 6.4=junk warning warning warning

Re: Tow rigs [Re: biff426] #962007 03/29/11 10:10 PM 03/29/11 10:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida B biff426 super stock
biff426 super stock B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida	By the way if the prone to fail lift pump was bad on the cummins it will run like dog doo and could have damaged the injector pump this is really the only problems with 98.5-02 cummins trucks I have owned 2 of them as well

Re: Tow rigs [Re: biff426] #962008 03/29/11 10:10 PM 03/29/11 10:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 268 pa K Kyle Reasbeck enthusiast
Kyle Reasbeck enthusiast K Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 268 pa	i've driven a bunch of both and even with both running right, the 6.0 Ford will outrun the cummins considerably. That being said, both again being right, will do more than enough towing most race setups. 6.0s have some serious head issues, and if i remember correctly the cab comes off to put heads on it. they also have injector issues and EGR. The 5.9 cummins is a much better motor, but make sure the lift and/or injection pump isnt on its way south with the one you drove. It's extremely common and they'll run but be waaaayyy down on power.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Kyle Reasbeck] #962009 03/29/11 10:11 PM 03/29/11 10:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 268 pa K Kyle Reasbeck enthusiast
Kyle Reasbeck enthusiast K Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 268 pa	biff426 you tree'd me!

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Kyle Reasbeck] #962010 03/29/11 10:20 PM 03/29/11 10:20 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida rickstershemi master
rickstershemi master Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 9,366 Lehigh Acres, Florida	Duramax/Allison Rickster

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Kyle Reasbeck] #962011 03/29/11 10:22 PM 03/29/11 10:22 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio H HEMIDARTS master
HEMIDARTS master H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio	We just changed both pumps in our 2000 dodge. They are very expensive. But we have hauled some heavy stuff, and never knew it was back there!

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Kyle Reasbeck] #962012 03/29/11 10:35 PM 03/29/11 10:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,495 Richmond , Virginia BEEQUIK top fuel
BEEQUIK top fuel Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,495 Richmond , Virginia	I work at the ford dealership and they all give me grief over having a dodge truck. I tell them I drive a dodge because I cannot afford a ford and all of its mechanical issues.Shop is always full of them with lots of problems.My cummins has 166,000 on it and I have replaced the lift pump and injector pump.Other than that no mechanical issues. Mine is a 2001 and with a K&N filter and a superchips power controller($400) it is a bear.Also keep in mind you are comparing a 6 cylinder to an eight cylinder!My truck also gets 21-25 mpg empty,17-18 pulling the open trailer and as much as 14 pulling the 28 foot enclosed.If you have tons of time and money to drop on repairs, buy the ford. Otherwise you better get a dodge.And the 3.54 geared trucks tow great,thats what I have. Mine is a 2 wheel drive shortbed sport model. 6556830-DSC00966.JPG (155 downloads)

Re: Tow rigs [Re: rickstershemi] #962013 03/29/11 10:35 PM 03/29/11 10:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas Al_Alguire I Live Here
Al_Alguire I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 19,375 Las Vegas	Ok everyone get thier stones ready to toss at me.. I have an 05 F350 crew cab dually. It has been a very reliable workhorse for me since i bought it new. It has been back to the dealer ONCE since I bought it. That was for an FICM and that is it. Plenty of power for me and my 28' trailer that is full of stuff. I also service a fleet of ambulances and tow trucks. They are all Fords. We have had one ambulance that needed a shortblock, two that needed EGR coolers and four vehicles total that needed FICM's or injectors. We also have 13 Dodge's in the fleet. For the most part the engines have been pretty reliable one lift and fuel pump replacement. The rest of the truck, IMO total garbage. The brakes, suspension and steering on these compared to the Fords are a joke. If you lay the parts used side by side you will see why. I am actually wrestling with the idea of selling it and getting a new one. Frankly the prices of the new trucks scare me, plus I dont use my truck as much these days for the tow rig. For the out of town stuff we use the motorhome to tow with but the truck was used for years in that capacity. My 18 year old 5'2" daughter now drives it back and forth to school. "I am not ashamed to confess I am ignorant of what I do not know." "It's never wrong to do the right thing"

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Al_Alguire] #962014 03/29/11 10:37 PM 03/29/11 10:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,487 On the run… BloFish I Live Here
BloFish I Live Here Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 16,487 On the run…	I'm happy with my Mega Cab 2500 It really doesn't matter whether you win or lose… as long as you look good doing it! ‘65 A100 ‘69 ‘Cuda ‘73 Vega GT ‘06 Mega Cab ‘14 Mercedes SLK

Re: Tow rigs [Re: HEMIDARTS] #962015 03/29/11 10:39 PM 03/29/11 10:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,495 Richmond , Virginia BEEQUIK top fuel
BEEQUIK top fuel Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 2,495 Richmond , Virginia	Quote: We just changed both pumps in our 2000 dodge. They are very expensive. But we have hauled some heavy stuff, and never knew it was back there! i had mine done at 104000 miles and it cost me $1600 for the lift pump,injector pump and the fuel filter.Lots cheaper than the constant repairs on the powerstrokes. Now the new powerstrokes are super badass power-wise(800 foot lbs)but so is the price tag!

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962016 03/29/11 10:42 PM 03/29/11 10:42 PM
Joined: May 2006 Posts: 740 WA JD Dart super stock
JD Dart super stock Joined: May 2006 Posts: 740 WA	I bought a 1997 Dodge Cummins turned up the power just a little it will pull any hill and make them flat that's only at 25 psi of boost. The 12v are easy to get insane power out of and they would be very affordable. Power stroke anything ford The Cummins will out last the ford.

Re: Tow rigs [Re: Al_Alguire] #962017 03/29/11 10:45 PM 03/29/11 10:45 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida B biff426 super stock
biff426 super stock B Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 936 Deland, Florida	Al how many miles are on your truck ours were good to about 75k then all heck broke loose look at the resale-what your truck would actually sell for vs a 2002 7.3 equipped the same way I think you will be surprised nobody wants a 6.0

Re: Tow rigs [Re: 70dusterjohn] #962018 03/29/11 10:49 PM 03/29/11 10:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,524 Lansing, MI 70gtx440dana master
70gtx440dana master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 3,524 Lansing, MI	Quote: I had the chance to drive a 02 dodge 1 ron with the cummings in it, and I must say that I was not that impressed with the power. Maybe it was just that one but non the less it was slugish on low end. Now with that said it had 97000 miles on it. I also drove a 05 ford f350 and that thing was a beast in terms of performance. I have a chance of get the ford for about 15000 grand. Was wondering if anyone has towed with one, and how what it. Its a 6.0 powerstroke. Just looking for some input before I comit to anything. Thanks guys... I have been looking for a tow rig myself. Before you buy in Ohio check out Cars.com and look at what is available in the Dallas TX area. Selection and prices are very good because there are so many of these type trucks there. You can easily buy a plane ticket and fly down to pick one up. The trucks are very clean from down there as well. I am leaning toward this idea. 70 Road Runner 383-4 4 speed FJ5 & black guts 70 Charger R/T 440-4 4 speed FJ5 & white guts

Re: Tow rigs [Re: BEEQUIK] #962019 03/29/11 10:55 PM 03/29/11 10:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio H HEMIDARTS master
HEMIDARTS master H Joined: Oct 2004 Posts: 3,354 ohio	Quote: Quote: We just changed both pumps in our 2000 dodge. They are very expensive. But we have hauled some heavy stuff, and never knew it was back there! i had mine done at 104000 miles and it cost me $1600 for the lift pump,injector pump and the fuel filter.Lots cheaper than the constant repairs on the powerstrokes. Now the new powerstrokes are super badass power-wise(800 foot lbs)but so is the price tag! We changed the lift pump to try and save the injector pump. A week later the injector pump left us stranded in Indy on the side of the highway. This was a couple weeks ago. We put the best lift pump in at $300. Dealer cost on injector pump is $2300 We got an injector pump for $1300 WE did all the work our self and had $1600 in it. This is the only thing that has ever gone wrong with the truck. They are very reliable trucks!!

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