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66 or 67 Belvedere ???
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03/17/11 11:13 AM
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dgas
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I am supposed to go look at a 66 or 67 Belvedere 2dr hardtop driver  tonight. Supposedly a number matching low milage original, Word of mouth thing from a car rookie(But You KNOW how that works), So I do not even know what year it is for sure. But it is a 66 or 67. What I do know is the following- 318/auto 500's on the car w new rubber Factory Buckets and console No AC Pwr steering I have seen the car from a distance and it looked pretty decent a couple years ago, But I know VERY little about these cars and have a few??? For instance- Is that 318 a poly? What swaps bolt in w no serious modifications,like cutting anything on the chassis/body/Fwells? 360? I expect to upgrade the ign. to electronic so wiring is a non issue. What trans/RE models should I expect to find in it? Headers? IF I buy this thing. I want to mildly restify it. Update/upgrade, but not modify or change its original look to the point that it can not be turned back. I'm not new to rods and muscle just these cars. It has been a LONG time since I did any Mopar stuff (340 Duster in 1975 and a 440 Polara 500 in 1999) so am a rookie at what fits what. 
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
[Re: dgas]
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03/17/11 11:55 AM
03/17/11 11:55 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Thank guys, What are the odds it has a 8 3/4 in it? I know the Hemi cars had Dana's. But I am sure one of these do not. The 360 should use the original 360 flex plate to hook up the converter,not? Or is special order one is necessary? Actually slighly modifying the orignal 318(IF it is a LA motor)is probably all I would need. I am not going racing. If it is a poly I'll probably just look for a 4 bbl intake and put on dual exaust and call it good. If the the car looks and runs near as good as it did a few years ago(I saw it as at a show)its going to be mine. The price is right.
The 360 will be a cast crank and require weld on weights to the converter. good luck finding a 4bbl intake for that 318 poly. Just do the duals and call it a day.
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
[Re: dgas]
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03/17/11 08:12 PM
03/17/11 08:12 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms
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Never too late to learn Basics: BelvedereI = sedan 2 Door, 4 door, and station wagon Unique BelvedereI outer body trim, bench seat interior BelvedereII = hard top, 2 door 4 door, wagon, and convertible unique BelvedereII bright trim, bench seat interior Belvedere GTX = 2 door hard top & convertible bucket seat interior, unique GTX exterior trim Satellite = 2 door hard top & convertible bucket seat interior, Unique Satellite exterior trim
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
[Re: dgas]
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03/18/11 08:53 PM
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Woodgrain steering wheel, console, solid interior, all trim in good shape, bumpers in good shape, stock and unmolested mid 60's V8 high-optioned B-Body...... I don't know what you expect to find in the $4000 range, but I'd say its at the very least, a fair asking price. If it runs good and had solid paint, I'd expect to see an asking price approaching 10 grand.
LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
[Re: StealthWedge67]
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03/19/11 11:11 AM
03/19/11 11:11 AM
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6PakBee
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Woodgrain steering wheel, console, solid interior, all trim in good shape, bumpers in good shape, stock and unmolested mid 60's V8 high-optioned B-Body...... I don't know what you expect to find in the $4000 range, but I'd say its at the very least, a fair asking price. If it runs good and had solid paint, I'd expect to see an asking price approaching 10 grand.
Boy, I don't know. One problem with the '66-'67's is that rust above the rear wheel opening and in the lower quarter is very common. The last I knew there is NO repop metal available for those areas. Secondly they just do not have the draw of the '68-up B-body Mopars. For these two years you have to just like them because they cost a ton of money to fix that you will never get back. For 10K it would have to be rust free, excellent paint, all good glass and chrome, run well, and have a reasonable interior. 
"We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
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03/20/11 08:06 PM
03/20/11 08:06 PM
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67SATisfaction
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dgas -
Sounds like you have a good grip on what you know and what you like. So, yes I agree you would be better off passing on it with the poly, rust issues and vinyl top.
For anyone who likes 66/67's the car isn't such a bad deal, especially if the trim is all there and good. An engine swap is easy and sheetmetal can be found. I believe I have seen repop QP patches for sale (?). A big hurdle and cost is the trim. A lot of 1-year-only parts for the early Satellites (65, 66, 67).
Regarding popularity and value of the 66/67's, you either love em or hate em. We bought our '67 convertible in excellent condition with factory 383/2bbl (1-of-107) from a Mopar guy who simply didn't like it and wanted a '68. It cost a lot less than $10k.
Best, -Art
65 Satellite hardtop 361/4bbl console 727 2.76
67 Satellite convert 383/2bbl column 727 3.23
67 Lancia Fulvia Sport 1.3 Zagato. Alloy body, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd
67 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1.3. Alloy panel, 1.3L V4 DOHC 4-spd
71 Alfa Romeo GT Junior 1300 Zagato, 1.3L 4cyl DOHC hemi 5-spd
82 Alfa Romeo GTV6 2.5L SOHC hemi V6 5-spd transaxle
75 Maserati Bora US spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF
77 Maserati Khamsin Euro spec 4.9L DOHC hemi V8 5-spd ZF
07 Aston Martin DB9 6.0L DOHC V12 6spd transaxle
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
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03/21/11 09:43 AM
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Brookeville, Md
Mr.Yuck
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Turned out to be a 1966 Satellite w a poly 318 not bad but rust starting in the lower Qtrs and above the rear wheel openings. Crappy blue paint is peeling in many places. I can feel rust bubbles under the poorly added on vinyl top which scares me, I've been there B4. I'll probably pass on both as they are not really what I want. I am put off by the Poly motor and flaking paint. I tend to avoid vinyl top cars as well.
Neither is worth the $4500 he wants for either car to me . BUT I may change my mind later.
???? $4500 seems like a fair price to me for a running driving car. Those 66-67 Plymouth can catch some good $$$. The Dodges on the other hand  If you are looking for a cheap nice B-body try a 66-67 coronet.
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
[Re: dgas]
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03/21/11 11:07 AM
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Mr.Yuck
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Thats about my ball park. But I am looking at cars from $1200 all the way up to $12K. I am just a picky and cheap SOB + at 10 K I will want exactly what I am looking for w little or no give. @ three weeks in to the hunt I have all the time in the world and am in no hurry. Year, two or when the economy finally collapes completely I'll find the right car. I practically live on Ebay,RJ,Car soup and CL and check all of them three times a day(retired and in a MN winter). heh heh 
There are some good deals in the "for sale" here. I'd rather buy a car form a member than off of e-bay. DAMHIK
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
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03/21/11 11:17 AM
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dgas
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Yep, I check them here and the other main Mopar site daily. Some nice stuff, most is just too far away and I'd rather spend the money here on a better car than pay a shipper. But I continue to look. MN, eastern Dakota's and western WI has a LOT of mopar guys.  (In respect for the fellow club member I pulled the indentifying pics so as not to shotgun his chances of selling the car tho I doubt my inexperianced opinion would stop anyone.) Now on the high side of this the guy that has that 71 Satallite has a spare low milage 440 cheap. So If I can find out EXACTLY what I would need to do to put a 40 in this 66. I might just go for it. He called and dropped the price $500 so it IS getting more attractive now. I heard there are some conversion mounts available???. But what about the trans? Will a poly 318 trans(727??) fit a 440? Spendy HP Exaust manifolds a must have?
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Re: 66 or 67 Belvedere ???
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03/23/11 03:33 PM
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Living in Northern Wisc. I can relate to availability here. You might want to look at the Dakotas or Montana. More rust free stuff out west.I have the name of a fellow in Montana that sells rust free parts and cars I can send you his info if you want. I think you have a good grip on what you want and what you want to pay. If more folks were like you the prices wouldn't be so high. I can't find anything here that is not a total rust bucket for $4,000. I have some c-bodies to keep me happy for now but would like to get back into a 69 Dodge b-body. Gonna be a long wait. Any way you keep it up and let us know what you find.
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