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70 Cuda Body side scoops #951748 03/16/11 02:43 AM 03/16/11 02:43 AM
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69Boss302 OP member 6 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 96 Albuquerque	Does anyone have any info on the side scoops that were on 70 Cudas in front of the rear wheel well on the rocker panel. I have only seen them on 2 cars in my life and no one I ask has ever heard of them. The one person that had seen them said they were a very short lived option available on early 70 Cudas. Are they in any parts books? Thanks - - -

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 69Boss302] #951749 03/16/11 02:47 AM 03/16/11 02:47 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Code M46... Rare but we have a few members with them.. One member Dwight's user name is M46rat.. I'm guessing he might know more... As will Scott Harms Smith who has reproduced the scoops... "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #951750 03/16/11 02:57 AM 03/16/11 02:57 AM
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70RT27N enthusiast 7 Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 396 BC	A lot of discussion here... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post5629493

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 70RT27N] #951751 03/16/11 03:07 AM 03/16/11 03:07 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Nice job bringing that one back.. "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 69Boss302] #951752 03/17/11 02:44 AM 03/17/11 02:44 AM
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69Boss302 OP member 6 Joined: Mar 2010 Posts: 96 Albuquerque	What's an excellent set of originals worth?

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 69Boss302] #951753 03/17/11 03:22 AM 03/17/11 03:22 AM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Hard to say... I'd contact Dwight.. Rare part but if your car isn't coded for it I sure wouldn't add it, they were known to collect moisture & cause rust... Probably why allot of cars coded for them had them removed...... Put them on Ebay, somebody might get excited & offer good $$$ "The Armies of our ancestors were lucky, in that they were not trailed by a second army of pencil pushers."

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: 69Boss302] #951754 03/17/11 11:33 AM 03/17/11 11:33 AM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Please note that they were never available on the 'Cuda. Only the Barracuda had them as an option. I really don't know why this was. Quote: Does anyone have any info on the side scoops that were on 70 Cudas in front of the rear wheel well on the rocker panel. I have only seen them on 2 cars in my life and no one I ask has ever heard of them. The one person that had seen them said they were a very short lived option available on early 70 Cudas. Are they in any parts books? Thanks - - -

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #951755 03/17/11 04:23 PM 03/17/11 04:23 PM
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cataclysm80 master C Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 4,165 Florida	Quote: Please note that they were never available on the 'Cuda. Only the Barracuda had them as an option. I really don't know why this was. I believe the reason is that the 'Cuda (except AAR) all came standard with the silver gill rocker moldings in 70. Gills and scoops can't both be installed on the same car at the same time. Tav

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: cataclysm80] #951756 03/17/11 05:46 PM 03/17/11 05:46 PM
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ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	The M46 option package included the scoops, special pin stripes, and special blackout paint on the lower body. The reason you could not get the scoops by themselves is that they were part of an option package and were not an individual option item, just as many of the unique items found on the Grand Coupe option package were not available as options individually.

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: cataclysm80] #951757 03/17/11 05:59 PM 03/17/11 05:59 PM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	Quote: I believe the reason is that the 'Cuda (except AAR) all came standard with the silver gill rocker moldings in 70. Gills and scoops can't both be installed on the same car at the same time. However, it doesn't explain why Chrysler didn't say, "If you order this, we will delete the rocker moldings." It only makes sense to offer a sporty option for their sportiest of Barracudas.

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #951758 03/17/11 09:18 PM 03/17/11 09:18 PM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	Perhaps it was an afterthought, or meant to further distinguish the 3 different models: 'Cuda: fish gill rocker mouldings Gran Coupe: dressy metal rocker mouldings Barracuda: nothing, but we'll tart it up a bit with the optional M46 package. It could be akin to the 'Yellow Bird' and 'Red Bird' packages offered on the low-end '70s Firebirds....

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: YYZ] #951759 03/17/11 09:30 PM 03/17/11 09:30 PM
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Diego (not Ted) Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 22,900 Gabba Gabba Hey! NYC	The Skybird and Redbird were trim packages for the Firebird Esprit, which would have been like a Barracuda Gran Coupe or Challenger SE with special paint an trim. If the Barracuda needed to be distinguished some more, why not the Challenger? I'm not buying the theory. I think it's just a case of Chrysler doing a weird thing since it seems logic never prevails when it comes to cars of the era.

Re: 70 Cuda Body side scoops [Re: Diego (not Ted)] #951760 03/18/11 08:45 PM 03/18/11 08:45 PM
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YYZ master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 7,327 Toronto (YYZ) Ontario	I would tend to agree that there wasn't always rhyme or reason as to why things were done in the era. Though I do find it interesting that the 'Cuda model received far more embellishments than the R/T Challengers even though Plymouth was to be a much lower priced, lower positioned line. e.g. 'Cuda: rocker mouldings, belt mouldings, tailpanel moulding, grille redlines, hood pins, road lamps, extra badging in the interior etc. - by contrast, the Challenger R/T only got a rallye dash and grille blackout for the comparable upgrade

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