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RUST PREVENTION MAGIC #950345
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Anyone use it? If so, how do you like it? http://www.ecsautomotive.com/productdesc.php?co=a&id=1

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950346
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Not yet but I plan to, worked great on his Valiant

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so far so good and very easy to apply!

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Hi Guys,

I have been using Dave's product for over a year now. I started testing it for him on components as he was restoring the Valiant. I have used RPM on two cars worth of bare metal components and they still look as pristine as the day applied. No sign of corrosion whatsoever(even during the humid summer months). Bare metal parts have been a battle for years and RPM is the answer. It has done all it says it does. I love it and will continue to use it in my restorations for as long as it is available.

Mike Mancini


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Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950349
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Hi Mike,
I just wanted to make something perfectly clear before the typical garbage and gossip starts to take place. I formulated and patented this product over the past two years. Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label. I don't know what Idiot said this but THAT could not be further from the truth. I came up with the formula and ingredients that make up this product and no other brands were used to copy it from!!! It never ceases to amaze me how some people will fabricate and lie about things to compensate for whatever issues they have. As stated earlier, we own the patent and associated trademarks for this new product line. Who ever this "person" is that I do not know, have never met and obviously has no knowledge of ANYTHING I did while inventing this product, please find someone/something else to lie and gossip about!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950350
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How long will this stuff will last? Is it like a wax that must be re-applied frequently or similar to a paint that will last for years?

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How long will this stuff will last? Is it like a wax that must be re-applied frequently or similar to a paint that will last for years?





I can't give an exact/accurate time prediction because it has only been around for a little over two years. I can say that parts we prepped more than two years ago still look just like the day they were treated. Unless it is removed with chemicals or abrasive measures, it should last for years! Below is some information that was recently published along with our new product brochure. Additional announcements are soon to appear in magazines such as Muscle Car Review, HOTROD, High Performance Chevy, Muscle-car Enthusiast, Auto Enthusiast, etc.....








Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950352
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Hi Everyone, I have been using Dave's product (RPM) for the last 6 months now and I cannot say enough about it. It is very easy to apply and can not be detected. As for the price of the product and awesome results you will get you can't paint your pieces that cheap. Using RPM is a no brainer even if your not doing an OE car. I have used RPM on every front end, rear end ,dash pieces, pedal asemblies and the window componets so far.This product has really changed my out look on keeping my restored parts from rusting. Dave what's the next cool product your going to invent that will help the hobby? Thanks Ken

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what's the next cool product your going to invent that will help the hobby? Thanks Ken




For the past few weeks, Tom Barcroft and I have been working on a new product that is specifically blended to preserve and protect rubber, plastic and vinyl materials. It is dry to the touch and will guard against all types of moisture and damaging UV rays. It will not change the color of your materials and repels moisture like water off a Duck's back!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950354
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What if someonene wants to paint parts treated with RPM? What is the prepping procedure?

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Hi Stefan! You cannot paint over RPM. It will repel the paint and it will not adhere to the metal surface. You can use it over your painted parts for added protection. I have someone who is using it on their outdoor lights around their swimming pool. A medical company is using it on their manufacturing equipment. The Construction Industry has expressed interest in RPM for keeping their tools protected during their off season.

I have also developed a product (similar but different than RPM) that is used to preserve the natural metal finish on Guns. ("AMMO" - Avoid Menacing Metal Oxidation) The Gun Collectors have started to show an interest in a product that keeps their metal rust free but not oily. People are coming up with applications that we never dreamed of, both automotive and non-automotive in nature.

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Do you need to wear gloves when using? Is it hazardous?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950357
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Do you need to wear gloves when using? Is it hazardous?




It is not hazardous to touch and there is no need to wear gloves during application! I have even applied it with my finger tips (in those areas that are hard to get to) once the parts are assembled on the vehicle.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950358
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Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label




so someone accused you of buying a marketed product, getting it patented, relabeling it then selling it.

not a bad idea, but i doubt it happened that way.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: TONY_DAGOSTINO] #950359
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Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label




so someone accused you of buying a marketed product, getting it patented, relabeling it then selling it.

not a bad idea, but i doubt it happened that way.





Apparently some idiot "genius" claimed that I took this product from a motorcycle line dating back to the 1990's!?!?! What kind of moron would think that I'd "steal" a product from 20 years ago (that obviously never worked to begin with or caught on) and simply repackage it with my name? I wonder where this "motorcycle" product is that supposedly is just like RPM? Has anyone else ever seen it? I would think that someone would have a good lawsuit pending against me if that were the case!

As stated earlier Tony, this product came to fruition because I lost points on the Cuda and Challenger for using oil on my bare metal parts. I knew that I would have to preserve the parts on the Valiant differently if I was to make up those missed points for the OE judging. I spent MONTHS formulating and engineering ingredients that would preserve bare metal AND be dry to the touch. I did all of this to facilitate a specific need and not with the intent to sell a product. It was the other guys on the Valiant Team that suggested I market it to the Restoration Industry. Every ingredient used is a component specially formulated to make up our PATENTED new product RPM. No other "rust prevention" products were used to inspire or copy RPM from!! It is a completely new concept/process that prevents rust on metal parts!! Pictured below is just ONE of the many raw materials used to manufacture RPM. They are custom made for ECS in 5 gallon metal containers. I opened one to show how it is shipped to our facility in bulk. (RPM obtains its beautiful green/gray color once the other ingredients are blended together.) Cheers to the CRETIN who said we copied someone else's product.......



Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950360
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just curious, says you have to heat the part to 120 degrees.
can you just as easily liquify the rpm? or will it not bond to the metal as well?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Andrewh] #950361
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Not sure why you would want to do that. It is so easy to apply. The container is only 8oz, if you could liquify it, what kind of parts could be dipped??

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Mike Mancini] #950362
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wasn't really thinking dipping, just that if it was a large part and hard to heat up, it might be easier to brush it on as a liquid ie the melted butter comment, rather than heat up the part to melt it.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Andrewh] #950363
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The largest part I did was the drive shaft. It was easy because I started at one end and worked my way to the other. The heat dissipates across the metal as you progress so the material stays in a flowing state until the process is finished. By the time I reached the opposite end of the shaft, the part/end I started with was already dry. A very thin film is all you need!

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thanks.

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