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RUST PREVENTION MAGIC #950345 03/13/11 11:48 PM 03/13/11 11:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md M mopars4ever OP I Live Here
mopars4ever OP I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md	Anyone use it? If so, how do you like it? http://www.ecsautomotive.com/productdesc.php?co=a&id=1

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950346 03/14/11 12:48 AM 03/14/11 12:48 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Not yet but I plan to, worked great on his Valiant

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #950347 03/14/11 01:44 PM 03/14/11 01:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,066 California 7 70SportSatellite super street
70SportSatellite super street 7 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,066 California	so far so good and very easy to apply!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: 70SportSatellite] #950348 03/14/11 01:57 PM 03/14/11 01:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass M Mike Mancini mopar
Mike Mancini mopar M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass	Hi Guys, I have been using Dave's product for over a year now. I started testing it for him on components as he was restoring the Valiant. I have used RPM on two cars worth of bare metal components and they still look as pristine as the day applied. No sign of corrosion whatsoever(even during the humid summer months). Bare metal parts have been a battle for years and RPM is the answer. It has done all it says it does. I love it and will continue to use it in my restorations for as long as it is available. Mike Mancini Michael L. Mancini American Muscle Car Restorations, Inc. 65 Foliage Drive N. Kingstown, RI Premium Quality Restoration Services for Hi-Performance & Classic Automobiles. OE Specialists. Instrument Specialties, Inc www.instrument-specialties.com www.manciniresto.com www.performancecargraphics.com

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950349 03/14/11 02:13 PM 03/14/11 02:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Hi Mike, I just wanted to make something perfectly clear before the typical garbage and gossip starts to take place. I formulated and patented this product over the past two years. Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label. I don't know what Idiot said this but THAT could not be further from the truth. I came up with the formula and ingredients that make up this product and no other brands were used to copy it from!!! It never ceases to amaze me how some people will fabricate and lie about things to compensate for whatever issues they have. As stated earlier, we own the patent and associated trademarks for this new product line. Who ever this "person" is that I do not know, have never met and obviously has no knowledge of ANYTHING I did while inventing this product, please find someone/something else to lie and gossip about!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950350 03/14/11 03:10 PM 03/14/11 03:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,151 Cruising! Q QuickDodge super stock
QuickDodge super stock Q Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,151 Cruising!	How long will this stuff will last? Is it like a wax that must be re-applied frequently or similar to a paint that will last for years?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: QuickDodge] #950351 03/14/11 06:38 PM 03/14/11 06:38 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: How long will this stuff will last? Is it like a wax that must be re-applied frequently or similar to a paint that will last for years? I can't give an exact/accurate time prediction because it has only been around for a little over two years. I can say that parts we prepped more than two years ago still look just like the day they were treated. Unless it is removed with chemicals or abrasive measures, it should last for years! Below is some information that was recently published along with our new product brochure. Additional announcements are soon to appear in magazines such as Muscle Car Review, HOTROD, High Performance Chevy, Muscle-car Enthusiast, Auto Enthusiast, etc.....

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950352 03/14/11 08:01 PM 03/14/11 08:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi C Convertcuda mopar
Convertcuda mopar C Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi	Hi Everyone, I have been using Dave's product (RPM) for the last 6 months now and I cannot say enough about it. It is very easy to apply and can not be detected. As for the price of the product and awesome results you will get you can't paint your pieces that cheap. Using RPM is a no brainer even if your not doing an OE car. I have used RPM on every front end, rear end ,dash pieces, pedal asemblies and the window componets so far.This product has really changed my out look on keeping my restored parts from rusting. Dave what's the next cool product your going to invent that will help the hobby? Thanks Ken

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Convertcuda] #950353 03/14/11 10:02 PM 03/14/11 10:02 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: what's the next cool product your going to invent that will help the hobby? Thanks Ken For the past few weeks, Tom Barcroft and I have been working on a new product that is specifically blended to preserve and protect rubber, plastic and vinyl materials. It is dry to the touch and will guard against all types of moisture and damaging UV rays. It will not change the color of your materials and repels moisture like water off a Duck's back!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950354 03/15/11 12:39 AM 03/15/11 12:39 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida elitecustombody pro stock
elitecustombody pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida	What if someonene wants to paint parts treated with RPM? What is the prepping procedure?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: elitecustombody] #950355 03/15/11 12:55 AM 03/15/11 12:55 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Hi Stefan! You cannot paint over RPM. It will repel the paint and it will not adhere to the metal surface. You can use it over your painted parts for added protection. I have someone who is using it on their outdoor lights around their swimming pool. A medical company is using it on their manufacturing equipment. The Construction Industry has expressed interest in RPM for keeping their tools protected during their off season. I have also developed a product (similar but different than RPM) that is used to preserve the natural metal finish on Guns. ("AMMO" - Avoid Menacing Metal Oxidation) The Gun Collectors have started to show an interest in a product that keeps their metal rust free but not oily. People are coming up with applications that we never dreamed of, both automotive and non-automotive in nature.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950356 03/15/11 11:13 AM 03/15/11 11:13 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md M mopars4ever OP I Live Here
mopars4ever OP I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md	Do you need to wear gloves when using? Is it hazardous?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950357 03/15/11 03:25 PM 03/15/11 03:25 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Do you need to wear gloves when using? Is it hazardous? It is not hazardous to touch and there is no need to wear gloves during application! I have even applied it with my finger tips (in those areas that are hard to get to) once the parts are assembled on the vehicle.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950358 03/15/11 04:25 PM 03/15/11 04:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,160 DELAWARE TONY_DAGOSTINO master
TONY_DAGOSTINO master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,160 DELAWARE	Quote: Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label so someone accused you of buying a marketed product, getting it patented, relabeling it then selling it. not a bad idea, but i doubt it happened that way. www.TONYSPARTS.COM

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: TONY_DAGOSTINO] #950359 03/15/11 06:06 PM 03/15/11 06:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Quote: Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label so someone accused you of buying a marketed product, getting it patented, relabeling it then selling it. not a bad idea, but i doubt it happened that way. Apparently some idiot "genius" claimed that I took this product from a motorcycle line dating back to the 1990's!?!?! What kind of moron would think that I'd "steal" a product from 20 years ago (that obviously never worked to begin with or caught on) and simply repackage it with my name? I wonder where this "motorcycle" product is that supposedly is just like RPM? Has anyone else ever seen it? I would think that someone would have a good lawsuit pending against me if that were the case! As stated earlier Tony, this product came to fruition because I lost points on the Cuda and Challenger for using oil on my bare metal parts. I knew that I would have to preserve the parts on the Valiant differently if I was to make up those missed points for the OE judging. I spent MONTHS formulating and engineering ingredients that would preserve bare metal AND be dry to the touch. I did all of this to facilitate a specific need and not with the intent to sell a product. It was the other guys on the Valiant Team that suggested I market it to the Restoration Industry. Every ingredient used is a component specially formulated to make up our PATENTED new product RPM. No other "rust prevention" products were used to inspire or copy RPM from!! It is a completely new concept/process that prevents rust on metal parts!! Pictured below is just ONE of the many raw materials used to manufacture RPM. They are custom made for ECS in 5 gallon metal containers. I opened one to show how it is shipped to our facility in bulk. (RPM obtains its beautiful green/gray color once the other ingredients are blended together.) Cheers to the CRETIN who said we copied someone else's product.......

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950360 03/15/11 07:15 PM 03/15/11 07:15 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670	just curious, says you have to heat the part to 120 degrees. can you just as easily liquify the rpm? or will it not bond to the metal as well?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Andrewh] #950361 03/15/11 07:29 PM 03/15/11 07:29 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass M Mike Mancini mopar
Mike Mancini mopar M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 628 Mass	Not sure why you would want to do that. It is so easy to apply. The container is only 8oz, if you could liquify it, what kind of parts could be dipped??

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Mike Mancini] #950362 03/15/11 07:32 PM 03/15/11 07:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670	wasn't really thinking dipping, just that if it was a large part and hard to heat up, it might be easier to brush it on as a liquid ie the melted butter comment, rather than heat up the part to melt it.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Andrewh] #950363 03/15/11 07:40 PM 03/15/11 07:40 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	The largest part I did was the drive shaft. It was easy because I started at one end and worked my way to the other. The heat dissipates across the metal as you progress so the material stays in a flowing state until the process is finished. By the time I reached the opposite end of the shaft, the part/end I started with was already dry. A very thin film is all you need!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950364 03/15/11 08:24 PM 03/15/11 08:24 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670 A Andrewh master
Andrewh master A Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,670	thanks.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Andrewh] #950365 03/15/11 08:57 PM 03/15/11 08:57 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi C Convertcuda mopar
Convertcuda mopar C Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi	Here's a few pieces with RPM on for 6 months 6531976-OEExhaustBracket.JPG (510 downloads)

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Convertcuda] #950366 03/15/11 08:59 PM 03/15/11 08:59 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi C Convertcuda mopar
Convertcuda mopar C Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 601 Wausau Wi	OE E-body Exhaust Hanger 6531980-OEExhaustHanger.JPG (360 downloads)

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Convertcuda] #950367 03/16/11 01:20 PM 03/16/11 01:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Here are photos of RPM treated parts from the Valiant along with an experiment that we did between two bare metal parts.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950368 03/16/11 04:45 PM 03/16/11 04:45 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 502 St Louis, Missouri Runnin74 mopar
Runnin74 mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 502 St Louis, Missouri	Dave, I just purchased some of your RPM to use on the front suspension of my 74 Road Runner. I'm in the process of documenting the paint inspection/ID marks and there are way more than I thought. Most are of course on the ends where the castle nuts are, but there are a number that are in the middle of the part. I assume these are identification marks so the assembler can just grab the right part out of a bin on the line. For example I found a pink mark in the center of the left side (drivers) steering arm that is bolted to the lower side of the spindle. The end that connects to the tie rod has a Lt. blue mark. There is no paint mark where the lower ball joint goes through the arm. I take it that the ID marks were present when the part was assembled and the inspection marks were put on later after the suspension was assembled. The runs in the paint on the part (ID mark vs inspection marks) go in different directions. I think to be absolutely correct the ID marks would have to be put on first then the suspension assembled and then marked with inspection daubs. I thought what I'd do was get the suspension parts cleaned then sealed with RPM and put them together when I arrived at that point in re-assembly. That could be some time from now. If I use the RPM now then it would not accept paint when I get around to re-assembly, correct? Do you have any suggestions?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Runnin74] #950369 03/17/11 03:43 AM 03/17/11 03:43 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: If I use the RPM now then it would not accept paint when I get around to re-assembly, correct? Do you have any suggestions? We ran into the same scenario when restoring some of the suspension pieces on the Valiant. Various parts were completed and set aside for months before they were ready to be assembled. I suggest completely treating the parts with RPM and when you are ready to re-install them, take some lacquer thinner to the small areas that will be painted. Put the paint marks back on those bare areas that have been wiped off with the solvent. After the paint marks dry, re-treat those areas with RPM. It will not hurt the new paint and everything will be sealed and protected from moisture! This can all be done within a 24 hour period so you won't have to worry about the parts rusting again.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950370 03/17/11 09:32 AM 03/17/11 09:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England Gavin top fuel
Gavin top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,756 London, England	Dave is this suitable for parts that get hot? e.g. caliper adaptors - if they heat up would the RPM reliquify and drip off??

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Gavin] #950371 03/17/11 11:34 AM 03/17/11 11:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA E ECS David Walden
ECS David Walden E Joined: Mar 2004 Posts: 1,711 USA	Quote: Dave is this suitable for parts that get hot? e.g. caliper adaptors - if they heat up would the RPM reliquify and drip off?? I used it on my disc brake calipers as well as the head-pipe on the Valiant. It can't drip off because it is applied as a thin film. Even if you tried to apply too much material, the excess would flow and run off of the part. It might turn shiny again if it is exposed to constant heat but it will go back to its normal (inconspicuous) appearance once the part cools off again. It was not developed for components exposed to constant (direct) heat such as exhaust manifolds. Those type of areas have never been tested. It does work well on bolts and pieces located in the engine compartment.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950372 03/17/11 07:03 PM 03/17/11 07:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 502 St Louis, Missouri Runnin74 mopar
Runnin74 mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 502 St Louis, Missouri	Quote: Quote: If I use the RPM now then it would not accept paint when I get around to re-assembly, correct? Do you have any suggestions? We ran into the same scenario when restoring some of the suspension pieces on the Valiant. Various parts were completed and set aside for months before they were ready to be assembled. I suggest completely treating the parts with RPM and when you are ready to re-install them, take some lacquer thinner to the small areas that will be painted. Put the paint marks back on those bare areas that have been wiped off with the solvent. After the paint marks dry, re-treat those areas with RPM. It will not hurt the new paint and everything will be sealed and protected from moisture! This can all be done within a 24 hour period so you won't have to worry about the parts rusting again. Thanks, great suggestion - thats what I'll plan on doing!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Runnin74] #950373 03/26/11 04:05 PM 03/26/11 04:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 6,710 KY 65pacecar master
65pacecar master Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 6,710 KY	Dave, I have been using RPM on several restoration projects and the results have been outstanding. The Product is easy to apply, doesn�t modify the original appearance and has proven to be very durable. As a Design Engineer I am always interested about how a product will perform in various conditions, so I decided to run it through several test, including lab testing and a road test. The initial test started as a road test in December and lasted until March through a particularly harsh winter (applied to a front end component on a daily driver); I am pleased to say the product performed extremely well through every temperature change, snow/ice event and several salt cycles. During the road test I also conducted several lab test cycles alongside the new OEM Components I was testing for the market; the test included extreme temperature changes, 1000 hour salt spray, 100% humidity testing and it is currently going through additional �abrasive� testing. The testing was performed on a bare metal tie rod end with RPM applied after heating the part with a conventional heat gun, the product performed perfectly and generated better results than anticipated, if fact it performed as well as any of the OEM components in the test group and outperformed several of the samples. Before starting the final test, I performed a quick inspection of the parts condition, its appearance has not changed through the entire test cycle; which is a remarkable accomplishment. In my opinion, this product is perfect for the restoration industry since it does not alter the original appearance of the part and it will certainly withstand conditions much worse than any restored car/motorcycle will ever encounter. This product also has several potential applications in additional industries, including Marine. Congratulations on an excellent product, I know you didn�t request this additional testing but curiosity got the best of me and I must say I have been extremely impressed. I plan to keep a supply of it around for future restorations, I always disliked having to paint front end components on a nice driver/show car and lose the original appearance; this product eliminates that problem.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: 65pacecar] #950374 03/27/11 11:25 AM 03/27/11 11:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 329 Orange Park, FL MRHWS enthusiast
MRHWS enthusiast Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 329 Orange Park, FL	How does RPM work on threaded areas? Does it fill the area, causing a tighter fit or should it be applied after parts(front end componets)have been installed as a touch up? 1973 Charger SE 1974 Charger Rallye 440 Aztec 2008 Charger SRT8

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: MRHWS] #950375 03/31/11 10:25 PM 03/31/11 10:25 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: How does RPM work on threaded areas? Does it fill the area, causing a tighter fit or should it be applied after parts(front end componets)have been installed as a touch up? Hi everyone, As a bit of a quick introduction I'm Tom Barcroft with ECS. I manage the production and marketing of RPM . During Project Valiant I took and categorized many of the documentary pictures we used during the restoration. If anyone has any questions or feedback on RPM I'll be glad to provide input and would like to hear of any uses outside of the restoration arena. Specifically on the bolt question : Treating the bolts and nuts separately would provide protection and allow you to store the parts for future use. The tie-rod ,clamp and nut used in some of the ads and magazine articles for the Valiant was treated a year before it was installed in the car. It's best to apply inspection marks before treating the part / area but some marks must be applied after the part is on the car. just remember to prep the area with thinner and light steel wool, apply your marks then retreat the area to fully protect the part. Applying RPM to the threaded areas does not change the threading ability.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC #950376 03/31/11 10:36 PM 03/31/11 10:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 East Brunswick, NJ F finadk enthusiast
finadk enthusiast F Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 299 East Brunswick, NJ	Will RPM work on aluminum? I am looking for a way to preserve my Edelbrock Aluminum Heads, fabricated valve covers and intake manifold without painting. Thanks Scott Scott 1956 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer (408 Stroker, 4 Wheel Disc Brakes, Rack & Pinion, 6 speed) 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 Quad Cab 1976 Corvette

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: finadk] #950377 04/01/11 12:38 AM 04/01/11 12:38 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: Will RPM work on aluminum? I am looking for a way to preserve my Edelbrock Aluminum Heads, fabricated valve covers and intake manifold without painting. Thanks Scott Hi Scott, RPM will work on aluminum -Steve,part of Project Valiant) has used RPM on the Aluminum / Magnesium wheels on his truck with good success. We haven't tested it in a high heat situation like exhaust manifold, heads, etc. We did use it on the head pipe of the Valiant and so far it looks like the day it was installed on the car. The Valiant has been through heat cycles and hot enough to see tempature building on the heat gage when we went through the awards ceremony at the Mopar Nats. You can see the head pipe in the post higher in the page. That picture is a recent one after heat cycles. Has anyone else used RPM in a higher prolonged heat situation?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC #950378 06/03/11 06:27 PM 06/03/11 06:27 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 39 Beeton Ontario. Canada B BigSugar member
BigSugar member B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 39 Beeton Ontario. Canada	Will RPM work on un anodized trim (Polished Aluminum) I preffer the look of Polished over anodized but I'm a little concerned with the finish tarnishing frequently and having to continually keep a wax finish on the raw aluminum. What about behind the trim where the Aluminum is in contact with the metal trim clips, will this product help with a barrier between the two dissimilar metals ? Ron

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: BigSugar] #950379 06/03/11 06:28 PM 06/03/11 06:28 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 39 Beeton Ontario. Canada B BigSugar member
BigSugar member B Joined: May 2005 Posts: 39 Beeton Ontario. Canada	Can RPM be shipped across ther Border to Canada ? Ron

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ECS] #950380 06/04/11 04:06 AM 06/04/11 04:06 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement 5 52savoy master
52savoy master 5 Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 4,231 State of retirement	Quote: Quote: Quote: Apparently, someone from Ken Mosier's restoration shop had told Dave Wise that I "stole" this product from another manufacturer and did nothing more than re-package it under our label so someone accused you of buying a marketed product, getting it patented, relabeling it then selling it. not a bad idea, but i doubt it happened that way. Apparently some idiot "genius" claimed that I took this product from a motorcycle line dating back to the 1990's!?!?! What kind of moron would think that I'd "steal" a product from 20 years ago (that obviously never worked to begin with or caught on) and simply repackage it with my name? I wonder where this "motorcycle" product is that supposedly is just like RPM? Has anyone else ever seen it? I would think that someone would have a good lawsuit pending against me if that were the case! As stated earlier Tony, this product came to fruition because I lost points on the Cuda and Challenger for using oil on my bare metal parts. I knew that I would have to preserve the parts on the Valiant differently if I was to make up those missed points for the OE judging. I spent MONTHS formulating and engineering ingredients that would preserve bare metal AND be dry to the touch. I did all of this to facilitate a specific need and not with the intent to sell a product. It was the other guys on the Valiant Team that suggested I market it to the Restoration Industry. Every ingredient used is a component specially formulated to make up our PATENTED new product RPM. No other "rust prevention" products were used to inspire or copy RPM from!! It is a completely new concept/process that prevents rust on metal parts!! Pictured below is just ONE of the many raw materials used to manufacture RPM. They are custom made for ECS in 5 gallon metal containers. I opened one to show how it is shipped to our facility in bulk. (RPM obtains its beautiful green/gray color once the other ingredients are blended together.) Cheers to the CRETIN who said we copied someone else's product....... ok...I've seen the other paste coating(s) and they have been around for a long time but how does yours compare as far as longevity? From what I've read about the "others", you have to go back every so often and do some touch up. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=360268668881&viewitem= I know it says Calyx is for exhaust manifolds but it works on other parts too. Last edited by 52savoy; 06/04/11 04:47 AM.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: BigSugar] #950381 06/05/11 04:30 PM 06/05/11 04:30 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden C cuda-sweden mopar
cuda-sweden mopar C Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 434 sweden	Quote: Can RPM be shipped across ther Border to Canada ? Ron and can it be shipped to sweden? and will you do international shipping?if you do please pm me.thanks

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: cuda-sweden] #950382 06/05/11 04:57 PM 06/05/11 04:57 PM
Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey S Spaceman Spiff master
Spaceman Spiff master S Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,696 jersey	Just put the engine together. would just running the car up to temperature be ok to apply it to the aluminum intake? 526 cubes of angry wedge, pushbutton shifted, 9 passenger killer!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #950383 06/05/11 11:13 PM 06/05/11 11:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Well I received my RPM this week and like an excited kid on Christmas morning went right into applying it to various test items, I will be putting the parts through the ringer to seek it's limits. I followed the directions to the letter and it went on just as described, very easy and it took very little product to get good coverage. I have high hopes for this new product, it looks very promising for a multitude of applications I have in mind.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #950384 06/06/11 10:58 AM 06/06/11 10:58 AM
Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 127 California M Moneypit6 member
Moneypit6 member M Joined: Apr 2009 Posts: 127 California	I bought some a little while back. I've used it on a few parts on a Roadrunner I'm working on. My only concern with it is that it will turn back into a liquid state when it's heated to about 120 degrees. Basically, same as when you applied it. As it's a very thin coating it still works fine, but I would think that dirt and grime would have a much easier time clinging to something like that. I put it on parts away from heat for that reason Maybe it doesn't make a difference. 70 Roadrunner almost ready to come off the rotisserie

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950385 06/06/11 10:16 PM 06/06/11 10:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,501 Newfoundland Canada L Larry_Dart_360 pro stock
Larry_Dart_360 pro stock L Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,501 Newfoundland Canada	Can this product be shipped to Canada? Larry

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Larry_Dart_360] #950386 06/07/11 12:33 PM 06/07/11 12:33 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 118 Winnipeg O OneOfMany member
OneOfMany member O Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 118 Winnipeg	I phoned them yesterday from Winnipeg, and they are sending me a container for $12 shipping via USPS. All good. Grant

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: OneOfMany] #950387 06/07/11 03:05 PM 06/07/11 03:05 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC D DusterKrazy master
DusterKrazy master D Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 3,445 N.Wilkesboro,NC	How do you apply it? brush or??

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: DusterKrazy] #950388 06/07/11 04:14 PM 06/07/11 04:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Apply with a brush (they even provide the brush!). It's EASY to use.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #950389 03/06/12 12:47 PM 03/06/12 12:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md M mopars4ever OP I Live Here
mopars4ever OP I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md	Anymore feedback from actual use of RPM?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950390 03/06/12 11:29 PM 03/06/12 11:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 644 Minnesota Barnstorm mopar
Barnstorm mopar Joined: Jun 2009 Posts: 644 Minnesota	does it come in a spray can or can it sprayed? The little old lady from Pasadena is back!

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: Barnstorm] #950391 03/10/12 04:47 AM 03/10/12 04:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md M mopars4ever OP I Live Here
mopars4ever OP I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,572 md	Quote: does it come in a spray can or can it sprayed I don`t see how because it seems to be more like a wax and it melts when it gets to certain temperature.

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #950392 03/10/12 12:00 PM 03/10/12 12:00 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada NV69B7RR master
NV69B7RR master Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 6,005 Reno, Nevada	Quote: Anymore feedback from actual use of RPM? https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post7006359 72 Demon 340 71 Duster 340 Resto https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: NV69B7RR] #950393 03/10/12 12:29 PM 03/10/12 12:29 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,819 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,819 Kirkland, Washington	Dave--is an MSDS available for this?

Re: RUST PREVENTION MAGIC [Re: mopars4ever] #2546397 09/05/18 09:30 PM 09/05/18 09:30 PM
Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 17 . R Runner1 member
Runner1 member R Joined: Apr 2015 Posts: 17 .	This product is absolute garbage! Cleaned and removed all rust, applied RPM, looks nice until Moisture attacks RPM and begins to rust Do not buy this product! Last edited by Runner1; 09/05/18 09:30 PM.

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