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Six Pack Gurus? #945844
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I have a dual plane intake on my car (eddy) now and want to try a single plane. I'm running indy srs mildly ported, best time last year was 6.87@98 1/8th car weighs 3550 w me in it. Where do I get one for a six pack or whats the best way to build one?


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Re: Six Pack Gurus? [Re: strokin73cuda] #945845
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I would look into an INDY inline intake and put a 6bbl lid on it.


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Re: Six Pack Gurus? [Re: strokin73cuda] #945846
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I have a dual plane intake on my car (eddy) now and want to try a single plane. I'm running indy srs mildly ported, best time last year was [Email]6.87@98[/Email] 1/8th car weighs 3550 w me in it. Where do I get one for a six pack or whats the best way to build one?


There are three options that I'm aware of, Indy two piece with the six pak lid, custom made sheet metal intake and the last is the old Weiand Super Stock cast aluminum two piece semi tunnel ram six pak intakes.IHTHs


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Re: Six Pack Gurus? [Re: Cab_Burge] #945847
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hey Joe, here is a thread on the Indy mod man intake. you may as well get the heads opened to MW if you go this route


https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1


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Re: Six Pack Gurus? [Re: sixpackgut] #945848
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Joe,

Assuming you are running a 440 and not a small block...there's the option of running the Weiand tunnel ram six pack set up. It's no longer manufactured, but you can still find them on ebay and craig's. I have one, but don't have pics now. The part number is P3690982. There is a lot of info about this intake in the thick Mopar Engines Manual. Tom

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Yeah its a 440. It looks like I will be trying the mod man from indy scince it also has a max wedge port version wich I plan on upgrading the heads to in the near future. Thanks for the input guys.


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Thats 1 way to fix a 6 bogger - run the Ford carbs with accelerator pumps in the end carbs.


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Thats 1 way to fix a 6 bogger - run the Ford carbs with accelerator pumps in the end carbs.


Them ain't no Ford carbs. Those are a set of the original aftermarket six pak carbs for whatever you wanted to put them on They make more power on the engine dyno than the OEM carbs do, even modified by a good carb shop


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Thats 1 way to fix a 6 bogger - run the Ford carbs with accelerator pumps in the end carbs.


Them ain't no Ford carbs. Those are a set of the original aftermarket six pak carbs for whatever you wanted to put them on They make more power on the engine dyno than the OEM carbs do, even modified by a good carb shop




They may not be FORD carbs, but they sure aren't Mopar (STYLE) carbs. Not with pumps in the end carbs, no vacuum seconday pods, full mechanical throttle linkage, and the fuel inlets on the linkage side. And, yes I'm aware of the accel pump conversion kits for the ends, but that still leaves the fuel inlets on the other side of the carb, like the FORDS.


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Thats 1 way to fix a 6 bogger - run the Ford carbs with accelerator pumps in the end carbs.


Them ain't no Ford carbs. Those are a set of the original aftermarket six pak carbs for whatever you wanted to put them on They make more power on the engine dyno than the OEM carbs do, even modified by a good carb shop




They may not be FORD carbs, but they sure aren't Mopar (STYLE) carbs. Not with pumps in the end carbs, no vacuum seconday pods, full mechanical throttle linkage, and the fuel inlets on the linkage side. And, yes I'm aware of the accel pump conversion kits for the ends, but that still leaves the fuel inlets on the other side of the carb, like the FORDS.


The key word is "Holley aftermarket carbs" for sale over the counter for 340,440 six paks and Corvette Tri Power, not for Fords. The Ford carbs where turn around so the fuel bowls would not hit the distributor is what I remember on the 1962 and 1963 406 Ford Tri Power cars I seem to remember some of the 1969 A12 440 6 pak cars having drivers side fuel inlet also, is that true? Any of the real A12 guys on here?


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Re: Six Pack Gurus? [Re: Evil Spirit] #945856
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Thats 1 way to fix a 6 bogger - run the Ford carbs with accelerator pumps in the end carbs.


Them ain't no Ford carbs. Those are a set of the original aftermarket six pak carbs for whatever you wanted to put them on They make more power on the engine dyno than the OEM carbs do, even modified by a good carb shop




They may not be FORD carbs, but they sure aren't Mopar (STYLE) carbs. Not with pumps in the end carbs, no vacuum seconday pods, full mechanical throttle linkage, and the fuel inlets on the linkage side. And, yes I'm aware of the accel pump conversion kits for the ends, but that still leaves the fuel inlets on the other side of the carb, like the FORDS.





They ARE Mopar carbs..... Kinda. They were sold by Mopar's Direct Connection back in the day. Check out one of the old catalogues. Excellent performance and drivability AND no idle circuit headaches in the outboards.


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Without seeing the numbers on the carbs, I call them Ford carbs because that is the configuration that Ford ran in STOCK 3x2 form - fuel inlets on the linkage side, mechanical linkage, and accel pumps in ind carbs. Mopar carbs in STOCK form had vacuum pods (and no accel pumps)on the end carbs, and the fuel inlets on the pod sides. I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the nit-picking and hair spliting.


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Without seeing the numbers on the carbs, I call them Ford carbs because that is the configuration that Ford ran in STOCK 3x2 form - fuel inlets on the linkage side, mechanical linkage, and accel pumps in ind carbs. Mopar carbs in STOCK form had vacuum pods (and no accel pumps)on the end carbs, and the fuel inlets on the pod sides. I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the nit-picking and hair spliting.




Yah, well....they're Holley carbs, and Ford is a four-letter-word around these parts. Besides, it's those Chevy carbs that had the vacuum pods and such on them. Mechanical's rule...vacuum sucks!!!


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Without seeing the numbers on the carbs, I call them Ford carbs because that is the configuration that Ford ran in STOCK 3x2 form - fuel inlets on the linkage side, mechanical linkage, and accel pumps in ind carbs. Mopar carbs in STOCK form had vacuum pods (and no accel pumps)on the end carbs, and the fuel inlets on the pod sides. I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the nit-picking and hair spliting.




Yah, well....they're Holley carbs, and Ford is a four-letter-word around these parts. Besides, it's those Chevy carbs that had the vacuum pods and such on them. Mechanical's rule...vacuum sucks!!!




You CAN'T be saying that Mopars didn't run vacuum operated end carbs


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Without seeing the numbers on the carbs, I call them Ford carbs because that is the configuration that Ford ran in STOCK 3x2 form - fuel inlets on the linkage side, mechanical linkage, and accel pumps in ind carbs. Mopar carbs in STOCK form had vacuum pods (and no accel pumps)on the end carbs, and the fuel inlets on the pod sides. I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the nit-picking and hair spliting.




Yah, well....they're Holley carbs, and Ford is a four-letter-word around these parts. Besides, it's those Chevy carbs that had the vacuum pods and such on them. Mechanical's rule...vacuum sucks!!!




You CAN'T be saying that Mopars didn't run vacuum operated end carbs




You are correct. I was mocking the reference to the mechanical carbs being referred to as Ford carbs, by referring to the vacuum carbs as Chevy carbs; all while attempting to point out that they are all just Holley carbs. Referencing either kind as one brand or another is ....folly, cuz they're all simply Holley.


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1968 Plymouth Barracuda Convertible 408 Magnum EFI with 4 speed automatic overdrive, 3800 stall lock-up converter and 4.30's (closest thing to an automatic 5 speed going)
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Without seeing the numbers on the carbs, I call them Ford carbs because that is the configuration that Ford ran in STOCK 3x2 form - fuel inlets on the linkage side, mechanical linkage, and accel pumps in ind carbs. Mopar carbs in STOCK form had vacuum pods (and no accel pumps)on the end carbs, and the fuel inlets on the pod sides. I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the nit-picking and hair spliting.




Yah, well....they're Holley carbs, and Ford is a four-letter-word around these parts. Besides, it's those Chevy carbs that had the vacuum pods and such on them. Mechanical's rule...vacuum sucks!!!




You CAN'T be saying that Mopars didn't run vacuum operated end carbs




You are correct. I was mocking the reference to the mechanical carbs being referred to as Ford carbs, by referring to the vacuum carbs as Chevy carbs; all while attempting to point out that they are all just Holley carbs. Referencing either kind as one brand or another is ....folly, cuz they're all simply Holley.




You musta skipped over this part out of a post several posts ago - I guess I should have known to say Ford TYPE or Mopar TYPE to eliminate the NITPICKING and HAIR SPLITTING. I never said they weren't Holley BRAND, I was only referring the kinds of cars the different TYPES were usually associated to.


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I have a dual plane intake on my car (eddy) now and want to try a single plane. I'm running indy srs mildly ported, best time last year was [Email]6.87@98[/Email] 1/8th car weighs 3550 w me in it. Where do I get one for a six pack or whats the best way to build one?


There are three options that I'm aware of, Indy two piece with the six pak lid, custom made sheet metal intake and the last is the old Weiand Super Stock cast aluminum two piece semi tunnel ram six pak intakes.IHTHs





You're forgetting one Cab, the Eldebrock STR-14 with the six pack top.

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Actually, it was more like a leap with a quick spin and a triple-2-barrel blast.

Sorry, I got excited, just had coffee, and am going out to test some bigger jets I just installed in my....Holley's.

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