360 with 318 heads?
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03/07/11 05:12 PM
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coronetkid
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hey guys i'm having a 360 built for my truck right now and have question. it's a basic rebuild .030 over block. my question is the heads. i've gone through 3 sets of 360 heads trying to find a pair that weren't cracked trash. i found a pair of #163 318 heads i am considering.
New Hardened Cast Guides
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Heads casting # 4027163
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NEW SEALED POWER STOCK VALVE SPRINGS VS510*16 Good to .510 lift I am going to to run a "RV" cam...believe machine shop said the cam was 422 intake....444 exhaust lift. and the advertised duration is .278 and .288. Will these heads work well for my needs? 87 w100 Ram work truck. Should i just keep hunting for 360 heads? What can i expect for comp? I know 360 are gas hogs but will these heads help or hurt?
Last edited by coronetkid; 03/07/11 05:18 PM.
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
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03/07/11 05:42 PM
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the ports may b smaller which will not hurt you in this app and will most likely help you w increased velocity. These will work excellent for you. On the CR measure the deck height & note if dish and or valve reliefs (no need to CC as the specs will b listed for those pistons & will b very close (close enough) but definitely CC the heads (they vary alot) then plug it all into KB's calculator
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
[Re: coronetkid]
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03/07/11 06:31 PM
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Trial and Error. If the motor is not seeing over 4500 rpm, I would say yes to the 318 heads. Cam choice is limited with those heads. Otherwise, a pair of 1.88 int valve 360 heads would fit the bill better. Just have them checked and set comp. in the 8.9-1 to 9.2-1 (no HIGHER than 9.5-1) range, by either milling the heads and/or zero deck w/flat top pistons.
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
[Re: coronetkid]
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03/07/11 06:32 PM
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imho,yes they will work the 318 on a basic 360 short block makes a nice torque motor for a 4x4,i have done it a few times bumps the cr up a point,has high volosity in the runners i liked the 3302 swirl port closed chamber 318 the best for this but the ones you have will work and have been opened up some for a little more flow small 4-v carb and headers helps also not a high reving engine and is done by 4500rpms but has a nice off idle torque curve for low end pulling
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
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03/07/11 10:02 PM
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I was 18 and not a ace mechanic but i put a pair of '69 318 heads on a 74 360(and the torque converter )..it did not work the car wouldnt go over 70 mph it was a 70 Dart but would boil the tires from a dead stop??I mixed martini's on the dash for day then put the 360 converter in. .Good luck.
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
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03/07/11 10:14 PM
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318 converter would have shook badly unless you weighted it for the 360 cast shaft.
Clean it, if it's Dirty. Oil it, if it Squeaks.
But: Don't fix it, if it Works!
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Re: 360 with 318 heads?
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03/08/11 08:26 PM
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I put a 79 360 into my 87 Diplomat some years ago. During the time I had it I did numerous things to the 360. One of them is relevant here. Take a stock 79 2bbl 360, add a 340 cam, mid 80's stock 4bbl intake and an edelbrock 750 carb as the base engine. Added a set of J heads, no noticeable change. Added an Edelbrock Performer intake, no noticeable change. Add a set of stock 87 318 (302 castings) heads, very noticeable difference. Down low I had lots more torque. Up top, no noticeable difference. Top speed was a bit over the 125 mph mark on the cop speedo, which turns out to be right about 4500 rpm, same for all three heads and both intakes. The only thing that affected the top speed was if I swapped in my 600 cfm Edelbrock, top speed dropped but mileage went up a lot.
The Diplomat had an A833, 2.94 rear gears and P255/50-R15 tires. I'll bet you have steeper gears, but bigger tires so YMMV.
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