Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I've got a 2010 Challenger R/T. I really like the looks of the old 15" wheels painted body color. I'm wondering if it would be possible to get a set of 20" steel wheels made for my new Challenger, that would resemble the old wheels somewhat, and be able to support the red-line dog-dish hubcaps. Anybody done this?
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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There was a guy at Spring Fling about two years ago with a blue 67 Coronet with 18" steel looking rims. I think they were actually aluminum. He had redline stripes put on the tires. Looked pretty trick. I think there was an off the shelf place making those rims. **Edit** darn google is pretty cool: 67 coronet 18 inch rims ... gets you... http://www.moparmax.com/events/2008/iii_6-fling-2.htmlSays Boyds made the rims at a $4500 cost.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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If 17 x 8 wheels will clear and thats a big if , Specialty Wheels has an 17 inch band they use to make their 17 x 8 Magnum wheels. This is a drop center band. This band will accept a standard 15 inch old style steel wheel center , that will take a 9" dogdish cap. May have to use a spacer... Just a possible idea. Frank Long
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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There was a guy at Spring Fling about two years ago with a blue 67 Coronet with 18" steel looking rims. I think they were actually aluminum. He had redline stripes put on the tires. Looked pretty trick.
I think there was an off the shelf place making those rims.
**Edit** darn google is pretty cool: 67 coronet 18 inch rims ... gets you...
http://www.moparmax.com/events/2008/iii_6-fling-2.html
Says Boyds made the rims at a $4500 cost.
hahaha $4500 wheels ona $3000 car.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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You might be right. Getting the disc brakes to clear might be the biggest issue with 17" rims though. Just for fun, I Photo-shopped a set of 15" wheels onto this Challenger, and "biggie sized" them appropriately. I definitely like the looks. Ignore the backwards letters on the tires.
That looks awesome. I like it. And I don't think they look too big/small, or wrong at all.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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There was a guy at Spring Fling about two years ago with a blue 67 Coronet with 18" steel looking rims. I think they were actually aluminum. He had redline stripes put on the tires. Looked pretty trick.
I think there was an off the shelf place making those rims.
**Edit** darn google is pretty cool: 67 coronet 18 inch rims ... gets you...
http://www.moparmax.com/events/2008/iii_6-fling-2.html
Says Boyds made the rims at a $4500 cost.
hahaha $4500 wheels ona $3000 car.
First word that comes to mind is "screwed."
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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what I would do I think is look for some wheels off of a police charger and paint them body color, and use their chrome centers... http://www.allpar.com/squads/police-cars/charger.html
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I don't know if these clear the R/T brakes, but people have put the Charger cop wheels on Challengers and I think it looks good on this black car at least. I'm not sure if it would look right on a brighter colored one though.
no it doesn't look good. I likin' it to a guy who in 69 orders a loaded Charger R/T and ops for the steelies and dishes... looks off. A Charger is not a low end car and should appear as such. Neither is a Challenger R/T of today.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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You might be right. Getting the disc brakes to clear might be the biggest issue with 17" rims though. Just for fun, I Photo-shopped a set of 15" wheels onto this Challenger, and "biggie sized" them appropriately. I definitely like the looks. Ignore the backwards letters on the tires.
How did you do that?! PM me if you have to. Thanks!
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You might be right. Getting the disc brakes to clear might be the biggest issue with 17" rims though. Just for fun, I Photo-shopped a set of 15" wheels onto this Challenger, and "biggie sized" them appropriately. I definitely like the looks. Ignore the backwards letters on the tires.
I like the looks of that , ignore the haters ....
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I like the idea, but the rims would need to be a lot wider and have a lot more offset on the outside of the car. New cars have wheels with a ton of backspacing and a very minimal wheel lip on the outside which isn't very appealing to me.
Please stop confusing the issue with FACTS ...
Good point , I didn't even think of that , it's going to be near impossible to get the right look.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I've got a 2010 Challenger R/T. I really like the looks of the old 15" wheels painted body color. I'm wondering if it would be possible to get a set of 20" steel wheels made for my new Challenger, that would resemble the old wheels somewhat, and be able to support the red-line dog-dish hubcaps. Anybody done this? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/1343795-scratchchin.gif" alt="" /> There was a fairly recent thread specifically about Mike Curtis (former Boyd Coddington employee) that was making the sort of wheel you're inquiring about. BUT, in my opinion, you take a hubcap designed for a 15" wheel and put it on a 20" wheel, and it looks REALLY out of place. Found the thread: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/2562266/2.html
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I didn't hear them called "poverty caps" until maybe 20 years ago. I think that was a clever phrase coined by some Hot Rod Magazine writer looking to add punch to a story. I encourage the person who disputes that to post a copy of the oldest printed word using the phrase "poverty caps". With my luck it'll probably be 1949, but I want to know.
Best Regards, R. My first Mopar was a '69 Coronet, in 1988. My highschool friend called the dog dishes poverty caps. I have no idea if he came up with that independently, or what, and haven't heard anyone else call them that, either. I've always heard dog dish.
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Those wheels look O.K. I just prefer more tire less rim on a vintage car.
I hope someone comes up with a decent modern package, but think the stock poverty cap would just look way too small on a big rim.
Can't actually say when I 1st heard that term, but it was many decades ago.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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Meh...I'd rather see 15" stuff on everything, even the new stuff. Now that looks good. Much better than big rimz.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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Cool. I would add that an 18x7.5 police wheel at 31# is not an exact comparison to an all steel, 20" factory style poverty wheel. Perhaps it would not be the 60# I posited above, but it may be very near 45-50#. Nearly double that of a lighter weight aluminum 15" wheel or even a race weight steel 15" wheel. I have 15x7 steel racing wheels that are 21#, so your 18x11 at 29# is impressive. Congratulations. I personally can not stand the look of original plain steel wheels and don't understand the attraction to them, but that is my preference. If you and a percentage of other mopar owners are happy with them, or an 18" aluminum copy, Boo Yaa !
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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I was there when these cars were new and I can tell you without a doubt that the FIRST thing that got changed was the wheels. Chrome 5-spoke wheels like Cragar S/S were top of the list. But nobody, and I mean nobody bragged about stock steel wheels and dog dish hubcaps. If you couldn't afford the Cragars then the chrome steel slots were OK but everyone would know that you were too poor to buy a "real mag".
Make sure you dress like this too, so you can look "hip". And jack up the rear with HIjackers cause that's what they did when they were new.
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Re: Dog dish hubcaps on 20 inch wheels?
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Meh...I'd rather see 15" stuff on everything, even the new stuff. Now that looks good. Much better than big rimz. I agree.
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