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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: ZIPPY]
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02/22/11 06:38 PM
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Yeah I figure they are catering to people with money.
I just read that the 392 is only going to be 1492 units, so maybe the 6.1 isn't dead. 
I tried...
6.1 is still being installed in "normal" cars, so for now it's good, no worries.
Nice to hear you weren't hit with "international pricing" on the heads 
Yeah it called traveling across the border. Seriously I don't know how they sell stuff over here.?
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 06:52 PM
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So where is the cheapest place to get a 5.7 -> 392 forged rotating assembly.
that is what i want to know.....
someone has to know...
jm
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: ZIPPY]
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02/22/11 07:01 PM
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So what is the price for the aluminum block? Who makes the aftermarket cranks? What is the rod journal size on a stock crank?
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: wldtm]
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02/22/11 07:12 PM
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So where is the cheapest place to get a 5.7 -> 392 forged rotating assembly.
ebay
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: Bill_T]
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02/22/11 08:52 PM
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You can bolt the eagles on an earlier 5.7 block as an upgrade, or no?
If you bought one of the 6.1 liter shortblocks you could bolt them on that and go, or?
yes you can. Think of it this way the 5.7 up to 2008 is like the 318 and the 6.1 is like the 360. you can swap them back and forth but you would have to open the intake port a bit for the increase size of the 6.1 intake.
The new 5.7 eagle is the same size as the 6.1 intake port size.
you can bolt on these heads and go.
as for bolting on these heads to a stock 5.7 I don't know if you would see any gain.
The stock 5.7 head work extremely well.
Once I receive my junkyard 5.7 I want to find this out.
One thing, the new head has a different exhaust port don't know if the stock logs will work.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 10:41 PM
02/22/11 10:41 PM
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Manheim PA.
mopardad
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You can bolt the eagles on an earlier 5.7 block as an upgrade, or no?
If you bought one of the 6.1 liter shortblocks you could bolt them on that and go, or?
yes you can. Think of it this way the 5.7 up to 2008 is like the 318 and the 6.1 is like the 360. you can swap them back and forth but you would have to open the intake port a bit for the increase size of the 6.1 intake.
The new 5.7 eagle is the same size as the 6.1 intake port size.
you can bolt on these heads and go.
as for bolting on these heads to a stock 5.7 I don't know if you would see any gain.
The stock 5.7 head work extremely well.
Once I receive my junkyard 5.7 I want to find this out.
One thing, the new head has a different exhaust port don't know if the stock logs will work.
yes you will see a gain, sons Magnum went from 14.15 stock to 11.99, Eagle heads & manifold 268 Comp Cam long tube headers, Eagle exhaust port opening is the same as 6.1
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: MattW]
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02/22/11 11:05 PM
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You can bolt the eagles on an earlier 5.7 block as an upgrade, or no?
If you bought one of the 6.1 liter shortblocks you could bolt them on that and go, or?
yes you can. Think of it this way the 5.7 up to 2008 is like the 318 and the 6.1 is like the 360. you can swap them back and forth but you would have to open the intake port a bit for the increase size of the 6.1 intake.
The new 5.7 eagle is the same size as the 6.1 intake port size.
you can bolt on these heads and go.
as for bolting on these heads to a stock 5.7 I don't know if you would see any gain.
The stock 5.7 head work extremely well.
Once I receive my junkyard 5.7 I want to find this out.
One thing, the new head has a different exhaust port don't know if the stock logs will work.
shouldnt there be a nice increase in compression from the old to the new?
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: sixpackgut]
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02/22/11 11:09 PM
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wldtm
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stock head gaskets 04 - 08 engines about 9.5 to 1
09 heads on an 04-08 = 12:1 with stock gasket
with a .050 gasket is close to 11.5 to 1
dont quote me on exact numbers but these are close.
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: wldtm]
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02/22/11 11:19 PM
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stock head gaskets 04 - 08 engines about 9.5 to 1
09 heads on an 04-08 = 12:1 with stock gasket
with a .050 gasket is close to 11.5 to 1
dont quote me on exact numbers but these are close.
you probably would not want to use a stock gasket without adding a extra shim, a stock gasket with a shim will give about .040 piston to head clearance
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Re: New 5.7 hemi eagle head
[Re: SRT6776]
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02/23/11 09:51 AM
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Why bother with 5.7L VCT stuff when a new bone stock 392 will run 10's in your racecar and get near 30MPG on the street??
If that motor will propel a 4100# Challenger to 12.29 and get 23MPG imagine what it'll do in a 3000# A-body....stock. Just add a predator or trinity tune and cheap bolt-ons and you are set. No BS.
It going to be a little while before the 6.4L b/c avaiable the hot ticket is the older 5.7 with the eagle head or the 6.1. As of righ now i pretty sure that there is no after market support for the vht controled motors which includes the 6.4L i sure this will change in a little amount of time but you got to wait.....
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