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Indy Horsepower ! #931477 02/18/11 02:52 AM 02/18/11 02:52 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	HI guys ! Putting my combo together and get a lt of comments from it, but never from people who know what they are talking about, so I'm turning to you. Here is what I have: 408 cid 360-1 heads 210cc int runner version race port 10.9:1 cr 190lbs cranking pressure HUghes engines cam 252/256* dur @ 50 626 lift Indy Intake 800 cfm Holey 904 trans, 3800 stall, low gearset 3.91 rear gear on 35 spline spool 28x9 ET drag slicks In a 67 Barracuda 3300 lbs elec water pump, manual steering what would me my Et's ? HP ? Trying to clear up all the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] coming to me and get reliable comments... Dan

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931478 02/18/11 03:33 AM 02/18/11 03:33 AM
Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 415 Peru cbarracuda mopar
cbarracuda mopar Joined: Dec 2008 Posts: 415 Peru	10.50

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: cbarracuda] #931479 02/18/11 07:20 AM 02/18/11 07:20 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	kind of mis-matched combo, but it should make some power. needs more converter/gear and with a 9" slick you better have a well sorted out suspension.or be able to control the power down low. ET guess somewhere in the 10s if it hooks

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931480 02/18/11 08:49 AM 02/18/11 08:49 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	10.7 - 10.8... if all goes good... I'm assuming this is a track car... I'm curious why that duration... seems short for a 408(strokers like duration) and they like carb

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: MR_P_BODY] #931481 02/18/11 10:05 AM 02/18/11 10:05 AM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: 10.7 - 10.8... if all goes good... I'm assuming this is a track car... I'm curious why that duration... seems short for a 408(strokers like duration) and they like carb Was thinking the same thing about both the cam and carb. Duration looks at least 10 degrees to short and it would love a 950 carb.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: 408strokerdart] #931482 02/18/11 12:16 PM 02/18/11 12:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,032 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave master
mopar dave master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,032 Mt Morris Michigan	my combo was very simular to yours at one time,accept i had a 4.10 with 727 and ran 11.30@122. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: mopar dave] #931483 02/18/11 12:45 PM 02/18/11 12:45 PM
Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 126 Nevada T theman440 member
theman440 member T Joined: Oct 2010 Posts: 126 Nevada	11.20's tell us how it comes out.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: theman440] #931484 02/18/11 01:12 PM 02/18/11 01:12 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,032 Mt Morris Michigan mopar dave master
mopar dave master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,032 Mt Morris Michigan	my 60's were 1.6 at the time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931485 02/18/11 01:30 PM 02/18/11 01:30 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas TheOtherDodge master
TheOtherDodge master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 4,953 Houston, Texas	Guys, notice he is running only a 28" tire so he isn't too far off on gearing and converter. When I had a home ported stock headed 408, .540 flat solid, 950hp carb, 4.56 gear, 30" tire, 4000 stall, 3500 lbs, I went 11.20 at 119. He should be all over 10.7's. But, with a little more gear and converter, easy mid 10's.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: TheOtherDodge] #931486 02/18/11 09:05 PM 02/18/11 09:05 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	Thanks for all your input guys. First, I wanted to choose that cam because I did not want to let too much pressure out, and stay around 185 cranking pressure Second, remember that I run a 904 with a low gearset, wich make a 3.91:1 act like a 4.30! You think it would be wrong to keep my 28'' slicks ? What would you change? Dan

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931487 02/18/11 09:11 PM 02/18/11 09:11 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I agree, I will look very closely at a bigger carb Dan

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931488 02/18/11 09:15 PM 02/18/11 09:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,717 Rancho Cucamonga, Calif. P PUNK top fuel
PUNK top fuel P Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,717 Rancho Cucamonga, Calif.	I think with the right converter, trans and gear that the combo should be good for low 10s. My brothers car sounds quite similar to what you are explaning and it goes 10.50s @ 125 with a 28X9 Hoosier slick. You heads are bigger, cam seems more aggressive and the cubes are more than ours...I think you will go faster than 10.50s. 6483108-2011Feb06016.jpg (139 downloads) 10.53 @ 125mph. 1.37 60 foot. Caltracs and Monoleafs, AFCO shocks. Heads by INDIO MOTOR MACHINE; IMM. CP Pistons, PC Carbs.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: PUNK] #931489 02/18/11 09:43 PM 02/18/11 09:43 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere S S/ST 3040 master
S/ST 3040 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,595 On the south side of Nowhere	Quote: I think with the right converter, trans and gear that the combo should be good for low 10s. My brothers car sounds quite similar to what you are explaning and it goes 10.50s @ 125 with a 28X9 Hoosier slick. You heads are bigger, cam seems more aggressive and the cubes are more than ours...I think you will go faster than 10.50s. I figured between 535 and 550 HP. Should go 129 MPH+ @ 3300 lbs.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: cbarracuda] #931490 02/18/11 10:09 PM 02/18/11 10:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND fishy340 master
fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	Quote: 10.50 maybe a 30 or 40 car is heavy

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Wedgeman] #931491 02/19/11 12:15 AM 02/19/11 12:15 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Second, remember that I run a 904 with a low gearset, wich make a 3.91:1 act like a 4.30! You would have been better off changing the rear gear instead of the low gearset. A drag race engine doesn't like the big rpm drop on the gear change. Make sure you get a good converter. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: bigtimeauto] #931492 02/19/11 01:50 PM 02/19/11 01:50 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada W Wedgeman OP pro stock
Wedgeman OP pro stock W Joined: May 2004 Posts: 1,522 Ste-Sophie, Quebec, Canada	I will looks closely at that too, Dan

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: bigtimeauto] #931493 02/19/11 02:21 PM 02/19/11 02:21 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,157 Bend,OR USA	Quote: Quote: Second, remember that I run a 904 with a low gearset, wich make a 3.91:1 act like a 4.30! You would have been better off changing the rear gear instead of the low gearset. A drag race engine doesn't like the big rpm drop on the gear change. Make sure you get a good converter. Mabe a all out high RPM special drag motor doesn't like big RPM drops in the higher gears changes like the 3 to 4 gear and 4 to 5th gear changes but most of the low HP(under 600 HP)automatic cars I know love the low gear sets on small tires Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Cab_Burge] #931494 02/19/11 05:33 PM 02/19/11 05:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,128 sweden S sshemi top fuel
sshemi top fuel S Joined: Aug 2004 Posts: 2,128 sweden	I dont see this combo being too far off. Its deffenitly not perfect but.... I would say 10.5 when sorted out.

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: Cab_Burge] #931495 02/19/11 08:29 PM 02/19/11 08:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA bigtimeauto Trophy Winner
bigtimeauto Trophy Winner Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,646 Plymouth Meeting, PA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Second, remember that I run a 904 with a low gearset, wich make a 3.91:1 act like a 4.30! You would have been better off changing the rear gear instead of the low gearset. A drag race engine doesn't like the big rpm drop on the gear change. Make sure you get a good converter. Mabe a all out high RPM special drag motor doesn't like big RPM drops in the higher gears changes like the 3 to 4 gear and 4 to 5th gear changes but most of the low HP(under 600 HP)automatic cars I know love the low gear sets on small tires A lower horsepower engine will love the lower first gear but hate the gear change drop and the long high gear pull where the more rear gear will make the engine happier all across the board. BB, TT5,Procharged 3300lb Street Car 4.79/154

Re: Indy Horsepower ! [Re: sshemi] #931496 02/19/11 08:38 PM 02/19/11 08:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	I think the combos pretty good except for the stall. It could be higher IMO, more like 4500 to 4800. The gearing is fine, those 9 x 28 MT ,ET tires are actually 27.3" With the 3.91, thats actually the same gearing as a 4.56 gear and 32" tire. With that 3800 stall and 3300# Im guessing 11.0s to 11.20,s Last edited by Sport440; 02/19/11 11:51 PM.

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