Re: XE 284 and stock rockers???
[Re: ahy]
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02/16/11 02:40 AM
02/16/11 02:40 AM
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My son is using the stock rockers in his 451 stroker. XE284 cam, and running Stealth aluminum heads so the springs are decent for that cam. Wouldn't want to go any higher than the Stealth/Eddy specs....Just asking for trouble. As it is, we've been keeping a good eye and ear on the kids set up. So far so good....6300 RPM max and 11.7's thru the pipes in a 3700# Chally and it survives!
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Re: XE 284 and stock rockers???
[Re: Russ_Davis]
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02/16/11 11:02 AM
02/16/11 11:02 AM
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If it has a "small basecircle" ground into the cam the rockers can sound noisey when the valve is closed. Same with if the heads are shaved/milled.
I ran stock rockers on a MP 284/484 cam for years. It had the 933 MP valvesprings which have some pretty good tension. Something like 110 closed, around 300 open.
Blew two rockers one night out racing. One pushrod went through the rocker tip. Another broke the rocker in half at the fulcrum. I got lucky, no oil pressure loss, lifters stayed in the bores and the pushrods jumped up into the valley area and didn't drop down into the crankcase and get clipped by the counterweights or rods.
I'd keep an eye on them.
R.I.P.- Gary "Coop" Davis 02/09/68-05/13/04
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Re: XE 284 and stock rockers???
[Re: Dean_Kuzluzski]
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02/16/11 12:19 PM
02/16/11 12:19 PM
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I have been running a XE294H with matching 925-16 springs with stock rockers in my 440 Sixpack Charger with no issues.
1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute 1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack 1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi 1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL 1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383 1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440 1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4 2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4 2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
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Re: XE 284 and stock rockers???
[Re: MoparforLife]
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02/16/11 04:33 PM
02/16/11 04:33 PM
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Stock springs will likely not have enough travel to prevent coil bind. You need at the very least .060 more spring travel from installed height than the maximum lift of the valve, preferably more. Make sure also to have at leas this much clearance between the valve guide/seal and the valve spring retainer. coil bind/retainer interference isnt fun or cheap. do it right the first time. Once again the partial results of coil bind:
It looks to me, that somone drove it for another 50 miles after it dropped a valve, then 2 valves ? There's some miles on them broken parts I'd say. lol
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