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Please define better....and why more lift is needed with stock castings?

Ive already discussed the same subject with Dwayne...

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True, it will run real nice with a stock cam.

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Ya, how do stockers run so well with sub 500 lift.

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Relax man!

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In SOME instance more lift to a point in relation to duration, equates to MORE TORQUE. Mopar BB heads flow pretty good for street/MILD strip usage
w/o "heavy" massaging. A MODERATE duration/higher lift cam is best for a hot streeter. Bigger (longer duration) cams want bigger port/valve heads. Not needed here!! The K.I.S.S. principle.

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Ya, how do stockers run so well with sub 500 lift.

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Sorry, I didn't realize the OP is building a Stock/SuperStock car.
Must be reading to fast.

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You got me ROTFLMAO...

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/bb/Lobe.html

Dang RB and MP old technology....Sure wish they would have tested some of the newer shiznit grinds. Oh wait...they did...


Peace Out!!!

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I went with an old skool MP528 mechanical. WOW what a great cam. Daily driveable, medium lope, fries the 295/60-15 BFG drag radials thru 3.55 gears. 470". See info in my profile.

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Good setup!!

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Well his combo is almost identical to mine. I run a .030 over 440 with stock bottom end other then the KB quench pad pistons that give me quench with my open chamber 906 heads. Its 10.0 comp and I run the Holley Street Dominator intake with an 850 DP. I have Hedman 1-3/4 headers and use a Dynamic 9.5 converter that flashes about 4200 at the track. My 63 weighs just over 3700 with me in it and I use 4.30's with a 30 x 9 tire. I use the MP .557 cam and I have ductile iron 1.5 rockers. Suspension is all stock other then SS springs and 90/10 shocks up front. Best et is 11.49 @ 116 with 11.50's to 11.70's the norm is hot weather. I drive on the street way more then I race it as I only race 2 or 3 times a year but put alot of street miles on it. I like the .557 cam as it makes ok power and has great driveability on the street. Ron

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Thanks Ron. Great input.
Keep Maxin' em', my friend!!

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The performance of those cams DO NOT relate to his CAR WEIGHT!! Look, I'm not knocking the newer cams, but you fail to realize that WEIGHT effects the perfomance.

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How do the cams NOT relate to car weight??? Look at the torque #s the RB cam put up.

I think you are not seeing my problem with some of the comments on this thread,and most other cam threads. To make the statement that "this cam, or that cam sucks, is out dated, is a SHi445 pos, etc", is totally ridicoulous.

As you said its all in the combination......I agree that most cam related problems are due to other issues, (compression, converter, advance curve, tuning, etc)

But, as in forphorty's case (whose car is no lighweight, 3600 and change I believe) if I asked 100 people what his car runs with no compression, 3.23s, very little headwork, and a high mileage motor to boot, most generally the answer would be "That cam is too big, it will be a flippin hound" or something along those lines.

Too many blanket statements thrown out on this board that are at best half true.

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You got me ROTFLMAO...

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/bb/Lobe.html

Dang RB and MP old technology....Sure wish they would have tested some of the newer shiznit grinds. Oh wait...they did...


Peace Out!!!

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Could you at least post the whole article? I didn't see the part about the sub 500 lift cams.

Andy is a serious asset to the mopar community, I'm honoured to see he recommends the same hydraulic as I do

Glad we can finally agree and move forward.

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Could you at least post the whole article? I didn't see the part about the sub 500 lift cams.

You hittin a crack pipe? Where did I say they tested sub 500 lift cams....

he recommends the same hydraulic as I do

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Not so fast there, pundit. Looks like the old school crap RB cam took the honors.... Something to the lines that they could tell the shiznit Comp hyd didnt have the low end that the RB cam had and the dyno backed it up. Hmm, split duration had less torque than the POS old school RB, where have I heard that before?

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Could you at least post the whole article? I didn't see the part about the sub 500 lift cams.

You hittin a crack pipe? Where did I say they tested sub 500 lift cams....

he recommends the same hydraulic as I do

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Not so fast there, pundit. Looks like the old school crap RB cam took the honors.... Something to the lines that they could tell the shiznit Comp hyd didnt have the low end that the RB cam had and the dyno backed it up. Hmm, split duration had less torque than the POS old school RB, where have I heard that before?

BTW, which cam company is high lighted in the sources box??

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[quoteI said I like the XE284 over the old comp 292/501. You got agitated.

Actually said that the 292 was a shi%%^ old cam. But,no harm no foul.



Too bad we couldn't have a dyno shootout in that motor and see.Probably wouldn't end up being that far from each other.

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