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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: studio57]
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02/11/11 05:27 PM
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racealittle
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The XV product is a very good idea.
However, I think the demand has really gone down on the product with the arrival of the new Challenger.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs XV is just a business man; not a designer. I'm also pretty sure that the whole XV product design came from under a Sean Hyland Motorsports restomod Mustang.
I have been in Seans' showroom and looked over the Mustang that sports a very similar setup. Also, he had several XV Challengers in various states of completetion at the shop.
SHM charges a minimum of $125,000 for a XV car, and up to $175,000. I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
SHM had a body shop at one time building the XV cars, but that was closed up shortly after the new Challengers became a hit.
So, the quality issues are likely due to whoever is doing the work producing the XV components at this time. If SHM is still involved, the quality should be first rate.
i think it is a good idea too, and i did do my reseach before i did buy it, i did want to buy witch was the best and all i got was tons of extra labor.. i think we can make everything fit but in what cost.. those guys should do they homework and double check everything and if this kind of thing happens.. just say sorry and try to fix it way that client would be happy. i do hope the actual desing is way better that the building skill`s these guys have. the corvette parts etc. factory made pieces are quite nice but that has nothing to do with them..it is just ordering prosess. i will post more when my project goes forward.
I hope you get your issues resolved, to your satifaction. Shipping and import costs are not going to help you.
Perhaps you should set up a 'skype meeting' to resolve your issues with XV.
Please keep us informed.
I chose the Hotchkis approach for my car. My car is not worth the expense of the XV kit.
The XV cars that I saw at Sean Hyland Motorsports were first class works of art. The attention to detail was outstanding.
Too many cars, too many parts, too little coin, too little space to work in, too little time left to make it all happen!
Update: down to one ride, still too many parts, a little more jingle in the pocket, gaining space, and it's going to happen this year!
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: convx4]
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02/11/11 09:42 PM
02/11/11 09:42 PM
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The 2 & 4th photos look like they could have been bent (dropped) in shipping? Shipping here stateside can be risky, they tend to be careless and clumsy. Not unusual for things here to be damaged in shipping. Maybe the same thing happened on international shipping?
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: convx4]
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02/11/11 09:47 PM
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I know there was a deal with the owner and Sean hyland. All the work done "at XV", with the the exceptions of some smaller work which was done actually in the XV building, was being done in Canada. I toured the shop in NY with the owner shortly after the place was occupied. My impressions were he was a business man first, car enthusiast second, and engineering student 3rd. I questioned the failure analysis of the vette spindles with a car that weighed significantly more, and was taller than, the car the parts were designed for. I can say, over time, he was vindicated as I know of no failures like that. But I got the feeling that he accepted some things without the empirical testing to really be able to assert they were bullet proof. Nice guy, cool cars. I would think they will make better good on things than they have tho.
Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water! And east is east and west is west and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: convx4]
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02/12/11 01:03 AM
02/12/11 01:03 AM
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Cleaning up the welds by grinding on them,in my opinion is weakling then. Un-less you re-weld them. There is lots of skill needed to build a car correctly, and safely. By no means Am I sticking up for the manufacture of your parts. I am just stating some facts that are overlooked.
the welds don't look too bad for tig welds, and grinding them smooth eliminates stress risers. rule of thumb in my field (I'm an engineer who does structural analysis on welded steel fabrications in large equipment) is that grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel, I don't have experience with aluminum.
a number of "problems" in the pics I see (the unusual bend in the K-member, etc) could very well be shipping damage. the cutouts/clearancing for the rack looks kinda hokey.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: GO_Fish]
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02/12/11 03:13 AM
02/12/11 03:13 AM
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The 2 & 4th photos look like they could have been bent (dropped) in shipping? Shipping here stateside can be risky, they tend to be careless and clumsy. Not unusual for things here to be damaged in shipping. Maybe the same thing happened on international shipping?
the cartong boxes where undamaged so the shipping was not the isue and guys on the XV confirm me that there aint no problems
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: jcc]
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02/12/11 02:25 PM
02/12/11 02:25 PM
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grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel
This is an amazing tidbit of information. You'd think NHRA, NASCAR and the aircraft industry would be insisting that all welds be ground smooth!
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: racealittle]
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02/12/11 05:06 PM
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I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
go to phone pic, options, send, email to yourself, opened in your email you should be able to do whatever with them.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: Supercuda]
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02/13/11 12:01 AM
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Stanton
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Nuclear subs have the welds ground in the hull, wonder why
More likely to eliminate any possibility of cavitation which would show up as noise to enemy sonar or whatever gizmos they use.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
[Re: Stanton]
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02/13/11 12:13 AM
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They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment
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02/13/11 11:33 AM
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, the pictured welds were not my concern, although little can be judged by just looking a picture
