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XV Level II big time dissapointment
Posted By: studio57
XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:13 PM
Hi Guys
i got report you that xv motorsports quality ain't as good as the price tag says it should in my a pinion , lot of problems on fittings and upper control arms where twisted a LOT.. they haven't try to fit anything and welding skills on the frame builder is bit better than my 2 year old son...
only compensation was after 5 none reply emails was that they will send me a new arms if i will send the bad ones back first = not fair deal as i live in Finland and the shipping cost are expensive and my progress will stop until i get new ones. it was also misssing one bushing, that they did send so it will arrive proxy in week or two. i just fix those problems my self but i really do NOT recommend no one XV Motorsports.
what do you think about this?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:13 PM
other one looks differend.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:16 PM
both in same picture
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:19 PM
more to come
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:21 PM
good thing was i did reseve a new bushrod as one of the upper arms bushings where totally wrong one
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:21 PM
nice tolerances.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:22 PM
more
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:27 PM
upper arms twisted
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:28 PM
a lot
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:29 PM
custom made= home made
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:33 PM
hmmmmm.. no words left
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:34 PM
and they say there is nothing wrong on my kit !
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:35 PM
it does not get better on the rear end.. upper arm
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 04:37 PM
Posted By: racealittle
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 05:19 PM
The XV product is a very good idea.
However, I think the demand has really gone down on the product with the arrival of the new Challenger.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs XV is just a business man; not a designer. I'm also pretty sure that the whole XV product design came from under a Sean Hyland Motorsports restomod Mustang.
I have been in Seans' showroom and looked over the Mustang that sports a very similar setup. Also, he had several XV Challengers in various states of completetion at the shop.
SHM charges a minimum of $125,000 for a XV car, and up to $175,000. I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
SHM had a body shop at one time building the XV cars, but that was closed up shortly after the new Challengers became a hit.
So, the quality issues are likely due to whoever is doing the work producing the XV components at this time. If SHM is still involved, the quality should be first rate.
Posted By: chrisf
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 05:33 PM
good to see your advertising for them. good news travels fast, bad news travels faster.
hope you get some results, you should ship the whole lot back on their dime.
Posted By: Montclaire
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 05:45 PM
Looks like supplier issues, unfortunately.
XV invested a ton of $ in design of their parts, but if the guy on the other end doesn't care, you're still going to get junk.
Posted By: jcc
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 05:54 PM
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The XV product is a very good idea.
However, I think the demand has really gone down on the product with the arrival of the new Challenger.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs XV is just a business man; not a designer.
Regardless of what the guy who runs XV is, these are the most detailed pics I have seen of the alum k member design, and how anyone can accept a non robust, non gusseted, stock material shaped, constantly reverse loaded, significantly stressed, non reduntant alum welded daily street driven high performance suspension piece is beyond me. It is simplely a matter of time before cracking in the HAZ welds occurs. Its a neat idea that will likely fail.
An alum roll bar would likely be just as practical. 
As extra clarification to my :
"Non Robust"- Nothing heavy duty about it
"Non Gusseted"- no gussets`used to reinforce stressed connections
"Stock material"- off the shelf shapes, ie nothing custom extruded for the intended loads
"constant reverse loaded"- any material when loaded alternately in opposite directions fatiques much quicker then when loaded in only one direction
"significantly stressed"- a mopar K member is likely stressed
"non redundant"- if this part fails, very bad things happen quickly, not like say if one lug bolt fails
"Alum"- every grade of alum fatiques over time when stressed
"welded"- welding alum changes any heat treatment properties of parent material, and does so in a small area leading to a HAZ, leading to area likely to fail first when repeatedly loaded over time
"daily street driven"- constant use over less then ideal unforeseen surfaces
"high performance"- this is moparts
"Suspension piece"- see all above
Posted By: Montclaire
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 06:04 PM
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Regardless of what the guy who runs XV is, these are the most detailed pics I have seen of the alum k member design, and how anyone can accept a non robust, non gusseted, stock material shaped, constantly reverse loaded, significantly stressed, non reduntant alum welded daily street driven high performance suspension piece is beyond me. It is simplely a matter of time before cracking in the HAZ welds occurs. Its a neat idea that will likely fail.
Thank you
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 06:14 PM
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The XV product is a very good idea.
However, I think the demand has really gone down on the product with the arrival of the new Challenger.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs XV is just a business man; not a designer. I'm also pretty sure that the whole XV product design came from under a Sean Hyland Motorsports restomod Mustang.
I have been in Seans' showroom and looked over the Mustang that sports a very similar setup. Also, he had several XV Challengers in various states of completetion at the shop.
SHM charges a minimum of $125,000 for a XV car, and up to $175,000. I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
SHM had a body shop at one time building the XV cars, but that was closed up shortly after the new Challengers became a hit.
So, the quality issues are likely due to whoever is doing the work producing the XV components at this time. If SHM is still involved, the quality should be first rate.
i think it is a good idea too, and i did do my reseach before i did buy it, i did want to buy witch was the best and all i got was tons of extra labor.. i think we can make everything fit but in what cost.. those guys should do they homework and double check everything and if this kind of thing happens.. just say sorry and try to fix it way that client would be happy. i do hope the actual desing is way better that the building skill`s these guys have. the corvette parts etc. factory made pieces are quite nice but that has nothing to do with them..it is just ordering prosess. i will post more when my project goes forward.
Posted By: racealittle
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/11/11 09:27 PM
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The XV product is a very good idea.
However, I think the demand has really gone down on the product with the arrival of the new Challenger.
I'm pretty sure the guy who runs XV is just a business man; not a designer. I'm also pretty sure that the whole XV product design came from under a Sean Hyland Motorsports restomod Mustang.
I have been in Seans' showroom and looked over the Mustang that sports a very similar setup. Also, he had several XV Challengers in various states of completetion at the shop.
SHM charges a minimum of $125,000 for a XV car, and up to $175,000. I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
SHM had a body shop at one time building the XV cars, but that was closed up shortly after the new Challengers became a hit.
So, the quality issues are likely due to whoever is doing the work producing the XV components at this time. If SHM is still involved, the quality should be first rate.
i think it is a good idea too, and i did do my reseach before i did buy it, i did want to buy witch was the best and all i got was tons of extra labor.. i think we can make everything fit but in what cost.. those guys should do they homework and double check everything and if this kind of thing happens.. just say sorry and try to fix it way that client would be happy. i do hope the actual desing is way better that the building skill`s these guys have. the corvette parts etc. factory made pieces are quite nice but that has nothing to do with them..it is just ordering prosess. i will post more when my project goes forward.
I hope you get your issues resolved, to your satifaction. Shipping and import costs are not going to help you.
Perhaps you should set up a 'skype meeting' to resolve your issues with XV.
Please keep us informed.
I chose the Hotchkis approach for my car. My car is not worth the expense of the XV kit.
The XV cars that I saw at Sean Hyland Motorsports were first class works of art. The attention to detail was outstanding.
Posted By: Blakcharger440
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 12:09 AM
I had thoughts in the back of my mind about eventually buying a XV kit. I definitely will not buy anything now. Sounds like they dont stand behind their product at all.
Posted By: convx4
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 01:33 AM
Cleaning up the welds by grinding on them,in my opinion is weakling then. Un-less you re-weld them. There is lots of skill needed to build a car correctly, and safely. By no means Am I sticking up for the manufacture of your parts. I am just stating some facts that are overlooked.
Posted By: GO_Fish
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 01:42 AM
The 2 & 4th photos look like they could have been bent (dropped) in shipping? Shipping here stateside can be risky, they tend to be careless and clumsy. Not unusual for things here to be damaged in shipping. Maybe the same thing happened on international shipping?
Posted By: moper
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 01:47 AM
I know there was a deal with the owner and Sean hyland. All the work done "at XV", with the the exceptions of some smaller work which was done actually in the XV building, was being done in Canada. I toured the shop in NY with the owner shortly after the place was occupied. My impressions were he was a business man first, car enthusiast second, and engineering student 3rd. I questioned the failure analysis of the vette spindles with a car that weighed significantly more, and was taller than, the car the parts were designed for. I can say, over time, he was vindicated as I know of no failures like that. But I got the feeling that he accepted some things without the empirical testing to really be able to assert they were bullet proof. Nice guy, cool cars. I would think they will make better good on things than they have tho.
Posted By: Stanton
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 02:24 AM
To XV's credit, tig welding aluminum in a structual application takes more filler than a similar steel weld. However, the material used looks to be more of a decorative grade than a structural grade (only by what I can see in the photos). There is also significant warpage due to heat which would indicate poor jigs or an improper weld sequence.
From what I see I'd be pissed too.
Posted By: patrick
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 05:03 AM
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Cleaning up the welds by grinding on them,in my opinion is weakling then. Un-less you re-weld them. There is lots of skill needed to build a car correctly, and safely. By no means Am I sticking up for the manufacture of your parts. I am just stating some facts that are overlooked.
the welds don't look too bad for tig welds, and grinding them smooth eliminates stress risers. rule of thumb in my field (I'm an engineer who does structural analysis on welded steel fabrications in large equipment) is that grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel, I don't have experience with aluminum.
a number of "problems" in the pics I see (the unusual bend in the K-member, etc) could very well be shipping damage. the cutouts/clearancing for the rack looks kinda hokey.
Posted By: 340duster340
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 06:36 AM
sorry to hear of this. kinda sucks that these quack vendors ruin the business for the quality parts suppliers.
its hard to belive how much that system cost and how crappy it is.
fwiw, i have used firmfeel.com in the past and their stuff is top notch.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 07:13 AM
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The 2 & 4th photos look like they could have been bent (dropped) in shipping? Shipping here stateside can be risky, they tend to be careless and clumsy. Not unusual for things here to be damaged in shipping. Maybe the same thing happened on international shipping?
the cartong boxes where undamaged so the shipping was not the isue and guys on the XV confirm me that there aint no problems
Posted By: jcc
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 06:04 PM
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the welds don't look too bad for tig welds, and grinding them smooth eliminates stress risers.
, the pictured welds were not my concern, although little can be judged by just looking a picture
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rule of thumb in my field (I'm an engineer who does structural analysis on welded steel fabrications in large equipment) is that grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel, I don't have experience with aluminum.
However the hidden sticking point is fatique life might increase by grinding a weld smooth, but ultimate strength may decrease, pick your poison. 
Posted By: Stanton
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 06:25 PM
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grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel
This is an amazing tidbit of information. You'd think NHRA, NASCAR and the aircraft industry would be insisting that all welds be ground smooth!
Posted By: bomber1965
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/12/11 09:06 PM
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I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
go to phone pic, options, send, email to yourself, opened in your email you should be able to do whatever with them.
Posted By: 1MYTGTX
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 02:25 AM
I hope they didnt ship you "seconds" hoping since you were in Finland you wouldnt do anything about it
Posted By: Supercuda
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 02:27 AM
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grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel
This is an amazing tidbit of information. You'd think NHRA, NASCAR and the aircraft industry would be insisting that all welds be ground smooth!
A tiny bit of knowledge is....bad. Nuclear subs have the welds ground in the hull, wonder why?
Posted By: Stanton
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 04:01 AM
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Nuclear subs have the welds ground in the hull, wonder why
More likely to eliminate any possibility of cavitation which would show up as noise to enemy sonar or whatever gizmos they use.
Posted By: Supercuda
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 04:13 AM
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Posted By: patrick
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 05:09 AM
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grinding a weld smooth will yield a ~2x improvement in fatigue life in steel
This is an amazing tidbit of information. You'd think NHRA, NASCAR and the aircraft industry would be insisting that all welds be ground smooth!
very costly, usually a last resort kind of thing to get the desired fatigue life....they do analysis to determine if they need to or not.
Posted By: JohnRR
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 03:33 PM
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Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 05:14 PM
a rms kit would have been cheaper and actually fit your car. just saying.
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 07:03 PM
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 07:16 PM
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 08:41 PM
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Posted By: jcc
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 09:03 PM
first I find it hard to believe the welds themselves are that much raised/rough to cause cavitation in a liquid at say 35? knots. Second, the vapor pressure mentioned above in reference to cavitation, is counteracted and somewhat negated by the significant underwater pressure, depending on the depth of the sub. Now if we are talking welds on the props themselves, which have a much faster velocity in the water, that is another matter. What little knowledge I have on the matter, I suspect exterior hull welds would be ground more for fatigue in resisting repeated dive cycles, and improved coating ability with a smooth surface in regards to corrosion, algae build up, etc. Regardless, we are just chatting here, and to make sure I get everyone's attention, "Not for Nothing"
Posted By: screamindriver
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 09:18 PM
So to tie everything together...The cavitation the XV parts will make when being thrown in the river will be greater due to the sloppy craftsmanship and welds....
Sorry could'nt resist, carry on..
Posted By: The Shadow
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 10:11 PM
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So to tie everything together...The cavitation the XV parts will make when being thrown in the river will be greater due to the sloppy craftsmanship and welds.... Sorry could'nt resist, carry on..
Very funny
On a serious note
Thanks for the heads up on the crap xv is offering. I really wanted one of those k frames but not now
I hope you can come to a amicable solution.
Posted By: Keith Black®
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 10:14 PM
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So to tie everything together...The cavitation the XV parts will make when being thrown in the river will be greater due to the sloppy craftsmanship and welds.... Sorry could'nt resist, carry on..
seriously, I hope things work out for you Masi and you get a good resolution from XV.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 10:41 PM
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 10:42 PM
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So to tie everything together...The cavitation the XV parts will make when being thrown in the river will be greater due to the sloppy craftsmanship and welds.... Sorry could'nt resist, carry on..
lmao. 
Posted By: Stanton
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/13/11 10:47 PM
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Posted By: feets
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/14/11 08:20 PM
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Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 01:14 AM
not on topic
Posted By: moparrulzzz
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 02:39 AM
I was getting ready to call and order a steering column, I think I may have to rethink that a bit!
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 02:45 AM
I'm really surprised no one from XV has chimed in yet..... Doesn't GMachineDartGT work there?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 06:34 AM
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I'm really surprised no one from XV has chimed in yet..... Doesn't GMachineDartGT work there?
me too, maybe they still think there is nothing to report about 
as the other guy who i did talk about this in XV-motorsports is him Peter Bergman (GMachineDartGT) !
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 01:38 PM
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I was getting ready to call and order a steering column, I think I may have to rethink that a bit!
aren't they just ididit columns?
Posted By: GoodysGotaCuda
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 02:06 PM
That crosmember hardly looks fit for a 4500lb vehicle, I think I'll stick with steel tube if I go aftermarket
Posted By: Darius
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 02:30 PM
I've got one thing to say.....RMS AlterKtion!
Bills stuff is top notch and fit in my 70 GTX like a glove, no grinding or fitting, just bolt it on. Bill was on the spot with answers to my questions when I called him.
I have purchased several items from XV as well and while the parts I got from them (Frame stiffening kit and an EFI set up fuel tank) was good, the service really did suck. Order was not complete and I had to send several e-mails to get results...over several months!
Posted By: feets
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 05:37 PM
I, too, was waiting for Peter to respond.
Posted By: 6PKRTSE
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 06:03 PM
I ordered their lower E-Body rad support tube kit & it took like 3 months to get it. At least it fit properly. But it was a no brainer.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 06:07 PM
did send them email today about this post, soon i think we will get some replays hopefully they now see problems on there building quality
Posted By: redlinegw
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 07:14 PM
1 word "Hotchkis"
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 07:28 PM
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1 word "Hotchkis"
They are making nice parts... But it really doesn't help the original poster, he lives in Europe, has paid XV's exorbitant price & has gotten crappy parts... No excuse in my opinion... If your XV you know the shipping cost to get large heavy stuff shipping across the ocean cause your shipping it, you know the guy expects nice stuff or he would have price shopped instead of going with the most expensive stuff out there... So why would you send him stuff that looks like its been drop kicked by godzilla??? Personally I hope this post costs them allot of sales cause IMO you should always put your best product out...... If it's being shipped a great distance instead of sending the crap you know a local guy wouldn't accept you should try to really step up to the next level...
Posted By: mikemee1331
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 07:30 PM
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/15/11 09:51 PM
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Posted By: flypaper
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/16/11 04:21 AM
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I'm really surprised no one from XV has chimed in yet..... Doesn't GMachineDartGT work there?
user name DQhemi was the owner of xv that got mad at me
back in 2007 when i said his claims were
smoke and mirrors 
i still have the pms
Posted By: Grizzly
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/17/11 08:41 PM
Best of luck, Studio57. I think you should get all your money back.
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/17/11 11:02 PM
You would think with the price of a Level 2 setup, each and every piece that is put in a kit would be checked. I mean come on. How many of these setups are shipped out every day? These aren't exactly for a backyard restoration. You have to be putting some serious money into a serious car. These should have been inspected and tolerances checked as any machinist/fabricator would when he is creating something.
I hope you get your money back. If the product was sent directly to you in Finland then I hope you get you full shipping amount in return. When I ship large parts to New York and then on to Greece, the company is only responsible to where the shipped it....Did they ship directly to you or to a port facility?
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 01:05 AM
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I'm really surprised no one from XV has chimed in yet..... Doesn't GMachineDartGT work there?
user name DQhemi was the owner of xv that got mad at me
back in 2007 when i said his claims were
smoke and mirrors
i still have the pms
think that guys name is john. clearly just a salesman. boy was he all wound up when he first posted here and people flooded him with questions and asked him for proof of his claims.
Posted By: chrisf
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 07:21 AM
2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
Posted By: Pale_Roader
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 12:46 PM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
Yes it does. Sadly human nature. I think i'd rather hear the vendor come back and say, "Sorry, i already spent your money, i cant help you." than wait and wait and hear nothing at all.
I too have been eying a few XV products...
Posted By: Cudajon
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 01:18 PM
Too Bad, I want a rack and pinion front end and although expensive I was going with this, not now. I absolutely hate a hazzle and will always avoid it if there's the cahnce of one. I'll continue to wait and watch the threads before deciding.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 01:28 PM
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Too Bad, I want a rack and pinion front end and although expensive I was going with this, not now. I absolutely hate a hazzle and will always avoid it if there's the cahnce of one. I'll continue to wait and watch the threads before deciding.
you want a r&p front end that is no hassle and works then go with the RMS unit.
Posted By: 540challenger
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/18/11 02:12 PM
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Too Bad, I want a rack and pinion front end and although expensive I was going with this, not now. I absolutely hate a hazzle and will always avoid it if there's the cahnce of one. I'll continue to wait and watch the threads before deciding.
you want a r&p front end that is no hassle and works then go with the RMS unit.
X2 have installed 2 units in customers cars and 1 is going into mine when it comes out of body shop limbo
Posted By: jcc
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/19/11 01:48 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see. 
Posted By: Keith Black®
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/19/11 02:13 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see.
6. they don't read this blog and/or don't have a PC.
Posted By: screamindriver
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 04:25 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see.
6. they don't read this blog and/or don't have a PC.
Nah, they see it... Too many employees were on here saying how wonderful the company's parts were to believe nobody is looking now....The sale was made, the parts were loaded into the boxes and now they're hoping this thread will go away...
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 04:29 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see.
6. they don't read this blog and/or don't have a PC.
Nah, they see it... Too many employees were on here saying how wonderful the company's parts were to believe nobody is looking now....The sale was made, the parts were loaded into the boxes and now they're hoping this thread will go away...
Which is why this needs to be kept alive so more people get a chance to see it...
Posted By: DmanSRT71
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 04:40 AM
I received my quote for my 69 RR, and the same day I see this thread.
Needless to say, if I'm spending $11k on my 69, the parts better damn well be correct the first time, be first class, and I'd better not get treated like a second class citizen after they have my money. In this case, it sure sounds like a very uncomfortable feeling on the purchaser's end, and that makes me very uncomfortable as well.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 04:47 AM
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I received my quote for my 69 RR, and the same day I see this thread.
Needless to say, if I'm spending $11k on my 69, the parts better damn well be correct the first time, be first class, and I'd better not get treated like a second class citizen after they have my money. In this case, it sure sounds like a very uncomfortable feeling on the purchaser's end, and that makes me very uncomfortable as well.
Well before there are allot more responses like this one it would seem to make good business sense to try making good on the original posters issues....
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 06:14 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see.
6. they don't read this blog and/or don't have a PC.
Nah, they see it... Too many employees were on here saying how wonderful the company's parts were to believe nobody is looking now....The sale was made, the parts were loaded into the boxes and now they're hoping this thread will go away...
they did contact me in Friday after i send the the link + some more pictures, the big chef did talk to me first then Peter. There where again some parts missing from the rear end, they did ship them in sameday but as always it means we have to wait week on those so we will make them our self to save time. i did suggest them to the double check everything in future.
They did offer me those billet uppers arms for 300dollars now witch is bit better offer than the original one as it was 700dollars (retail 725dollars) but i don't think that is a fair offer as we have done lot of extra labor because of missing parts and particle bad building quality.
Now the rear end is almost done, and same on the front.. but the front upper arms still the issue as those where so twisted that we did have to warm those up and regarding to them they cant handle that. we need to make my car ready for Easter on Shows here in Finland and there is lot of to do, make room to the tci 6x speed tranny, build the aluminium Hemi paint the parts, etc etc etc etc.....
in the picture you can see that we need to short the panhard tube a bit and bend it so it would not be attach to dana`s differential cover
Posted By: Blakcharger440
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 01:07 PM
That sounds like a nightmare. For that kind of money I would have demanded they take all that stuff back on their dime. Unacceptable.
Posted By: Bill MeLater
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/21/11 04:44 PM
Ouch!!!
Posted By: jcc
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/24/11 12:47 AM
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2500 views and no response. wonder how much business this just cost them? bad news travels fast!!
There are five possible likelyhoods IMO at this point:
1. Times are tough and they are ready to toss in the towel, so why bother with the bickering, which might be justified
2. They are so busy raking in the dough they don't care to bother with the hassle with one upset customer.
3. They are clueless
4. They are on vacation
5. All the negatives mentioned in this post have merit and are not defensible
We'll see.
6. they don't read this blog and/or don't have a PC.
Kinda thought #3 covered that.
But as this saga continues, it does seem there is some effort to resolve, which is good for everybody, and since they did make a big splash early on on their inital offerings, and had everyones attention with High dollar stuff, and muti post tuning, etc, they seem awfully slow on handling this bump in the road, (pun intended) and a lot of damage results from getting out of the gate late on issues like this. Hope they learn from this.
Posted By: moparrulzzz
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/28/11 04:31 AM
Still watching waiting for XV to chime in!!
Posted By: Evil Spirit
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/28/11 07:18 AM
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a number of "problems" in the pics I see (the unusual bend in the K-member, etc) could very well be shipping damage. the cutouts/clearancing for the rack looks kinda hokey.
Just being made out of all square tube makes it look "hokey" to me. Save the square tube for making work benches.
Posted By: 70Cuda383
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/28/11 01:12 PM
Let's keep this on topic and stop the bickering back and forth. I'd hate to have to lock this down and ruin the guy's hopes at hearing back from XV
Posted By: Vert
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/28/11 02:26 PM
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I have the pictures on my phone; just don't know how to get them off and post.
go to phone pic, options, send, email to yourself, opened in your email you should be able to do whatever with them.
If your phone and computer have bluetooth you can connect and transfer them that way.
Posted By: dangina
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/01/11 09:24 AM
bumping this - hope u get a response!
Posted By: 67SATisfaction
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/01/11 02:59 PM
Another bump. Thanks for sharing the photos and your experiences here '57. This is very interesting to follow.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/01/11 03:54 PM
Bumping isn't gonna help, if you read the O/P's posts XV has been in contact with him & is doing something, whether it is enough only time will tell... I'm sure XV has watched enough companies bashed here to know there is no winning answer at this point, the winning answer was to have never shipped bad parts in the first place or to have dealt with it quickly when there was a problem... They missed both those opportunities so the only direction this thread will go isn't gonna benefit them...
Good Luck to the O/P in getting this straightened out...
Posted By: dtedler
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/01/11 04:12 PM
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BTW The owner of XV is DT Hemi & while he hasn't responded in this thread he does have a thread running to get info for his own investing needs..
It's DQHemi not DT hemi.
Posted By: domingo
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/01/11 10:08 PM
I though it was supposed to be high end stuff.
That K frame is a joke.
I'm glad I didnt spend my money with them.
If you are looking for handling: go Hotchkis (I did, but havent installed the parts yet, but everything looks awesome and price is right, they just need to come with a rack & pinion offering).
If you want to switch to coil overs for clearance issues for customs headers work or custom engine install. Alterktion all the way.
Magnumforce also has VERY POOR customer service. They crewed me sending me the wrong parts to Peru and didnt want to take em back and eat the shipping and import costs....they made me buy all the parts I needed again and gave me a $50 buck discount or something like that. And the second time around they shipped me the parts incomplete...i didnt bother to complain again...i turned my own spacers on my shop's lathe-
Im not even going to look at XV the Xv website ever again!!!!
Posted By: Hotchkis
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 03/06/11 06:31 PM
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I though it was supposed to be high end stuff.
That K frame is a joke.
I'm glad I didnt spend my money with them.
If you are looking for handling: go Hotchkis (I did, but havent installed the parts yet, but everything looks awesome and price is right, they just need to come with a rack & pinion offering).
If you want to switch to coil overs for clearance issues for customs headers work or custom engine install. Alterktion all the way.
Magnumforce also has VERY POOR customer service. They crewed me sending me the wrong parts to Peru and didnt want to take em back and eat the shipping and import costs....they made me buy all the parts I needed again and gave me a $50 buck discount or something like that. And the second time around they shipped me the parts incomplete...i didnt bother to complain again...i turned my own spacers on my shop's lathe-
Im not even going to look at XV the Xv website ever again!!!!
Domingo,
It must be tough building a car in Peru, but how cool it's going to be once you have it finished.
We hope everything goes smoothly when you get around to installing the Hotchkis parts. We’ve
had great success with our power steering box and quickener and if you want to contact our
tech department PM us we'd be happy to help you source the parts.
We are proud to have Hotchkis parts on cars all over the world. Keep us updated with your project.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 04/23/11 04:18 PM
still waiting the promised billet upper arms from XV motorports... now we will not get it ready to the shows... well there is allways a next year. it should not take this long to make those.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 08:10 PM
2 months waiting and still nothing.... front end almost done but the billet upper arms not!!.. i would not recommend to buy anything from those assholes..how hard can it be to make 2 upper arms... i really really really hope the desing is way better than the building quality !!!
lot of progress done.. on the car ,
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 08:51 PM
It really is way past time for this to be taken care of... Where's G Machine Dart? Where's DQ Hemi? Kinda funny how they were regulars here but now all is quiet..
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Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:04 PM
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It really is way past time for this to be taken care of... Where's G Machine Dart? Where's DQ Hemi? Kinda funny how they were regulars here but now all is quiet..
john went running for the hills when people asked legit questions and asked for data for his claims and people didn't just take his word on things.
pete i heard got his pee pee slapped by his bosses because he got quite nasty with a few guys over the xv stuff.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:06 PM
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2 months waiting and still nothing.... front end almost done but the billet upper arms not!!.. i would not recommend to buy anything from those assholes..how hard can it be to make 2 upper arms... i really really really hope the desing is way better than the building quality !!!
lot of progress done.. on the car ,
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger
now how did that make it past the word censor? lol
Posted By: Kern Dog
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:07 PM
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got his pee pee slapped
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:31 PM
Well it appears Pete's number is 516-384-6438 maybe he needs to be called & asked about this.....
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Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:40 PM
pete is just an employee as far as i know. its john you need to talk to.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/08/11 09:56 PM
I agree, but John hasn't posted a number other than the company number... Pete posted a number that gives direct contact & while he may only be an employee he sure pushed the product pretty hard so IMO he can take some heat for this BS... I see it as an embarrassment to the hobby & really to our country that something obviously substandard was sent to a man in Finland.. They may feel he's far enough away he won't do anything... My feeling is the internet has made the world a much smaller place & someone should call them on this....
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Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/09/11 05:56 AM
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I agree, but John hasn't posted a number other than the company number... Pete posted a number that gives direct contact & while he may only be an employee he sure pushed the product pretty hard so IMO he can take some heat for this BS... I see it as an embarrassment to the hobby & really to our country that something obviously substandard was sent to a man in Finland.. They may feel he's far enough away he won't do anything... My feeling is the internet has made the world a much smaller place & someone should call them on this....
i have talk with John two months a go and he promised to take care of this, also he didnt like my attitude as i post these pictures of the parts to forums, thing was i asked nicely over ten times first but they didnt see anything wrong on the parts, so only thing i can do is show others how those parts look like. Then i did send few link to them and they realise the was something wrong on the parts
and promised to compensite those issue by giving me discount on the billet upper arms as they told me i can not drive with those bendet tubular ones.Feb 28 we did they did send me documents about and after that i have asked about those over 10times..and ansure is basicly we will let you know when we have those ready.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/09/11 06:48 AM
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i have talk with John two months a go and he promised to take care of this, also he didnt like my attitude as i post these pictures of the parts to forums, thing was i asked nicely over ten times first but they didnt see anything wrong on the parts, so only thing i can do is show others how those parts look like. Then i did send few link to them and they realise the was something wrong on the parts
and promised to compensite those issue by giving me discount on the billet upper arms as they told me i can not drive with those bendet tubular ones.Feb 28 we did they did send me documents about and after that i have asked about those over 10times..and ansure is basicly we will let you know when we have those ready.
If he were to take care of problems he wouldn't have any issues with your "Attitude"... It's not your attitude he doesn't like, it's bad press he doesn't like... If he took care of the issues quickly & fairly instead of bad press he would have a review saying "While every company has a problem from time to time it's how those problems are handled that separates the good vendors from the not so good.... Well I'm here to report XV stepped up... Instead the report reads XV stepped in crap....
I hope John makes this right but it sounds like he's shown his true colors..... Come on John, Make me eat crow... I'll be happy to post an apology when you make this right...
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Posted By: DmanSRT71
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/09/11 10:24 PM
I was sent a "follow up" email from Scott @ XV asking where I was in my order process (I had a L2 quote front/rear). I said I had heard of quality problems in the manufacturing of the parts, and asked for comments. that was about 2 months ago (ish) and I haven't heard a thing.
Shouldn't they have made efforts to make me feel everything was as it should? Instead, I'm left wondering if I should order...will I get the same problems the OP did in this thread? That makes me nervous. So, no ordering for me.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/09/11 11:16 PM
it seems if they put as much effort into customer service as they do advertising they would be ok. the more ya hear of these problems and how they address them they sure sound like a fly by night operation.
and i agree. if they treated ya right then there would be no problem with your "attitude". or more like it your posts on the net about their pathetic product and crappy customer service.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/10/11 05:40 AM
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it seems if they put as much effort into customer service as they do advertising they would be ok. the more ya hear of these problems and how they address them they sure sound like a fly by night operation.
and i agree. if they treated ya right then there would be no problem with your "attitude". or more like it your posts on the net about their pathetic product and crappy customer service.
i hate to do this infomation, as my invest goes down as well and it take time. But im hoping they are learning to do the job right way in future and that people are aware how they treat customers and what kind of quality you get from 12 000dollars even you are looking the best of the best. now if i could undo this i would go to RMS as they assamble everything before they ship them.
572 aluminum Engine allmost done
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/10/11 06:09 PM
Because if anyone is thinking of buying an XV suspension kit they might decide to do a google search... I want this thread to be near the top..
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Posted By: Keith Black®
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/10/11 09:41 PM
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572 aluminum Engine allmost done
engine looking good Masi
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 05:03 AM
Thanks Darren, i wanna make everything look orginal as possible...
Posted By: chrisf
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 06:11 AM
does xv advertise here? banning them would be a good start i think. i would think there should be some legal recourse as well, this is fraud.
maybe the members should start emailing and calling xv...alot
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 06:47 AM
i got an email from Peter today .. this forum thing seems to work a bit
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Masi -
Just spoke to my vendor on the arms. Supposed to be in my hands this time next week.
Thank You,
Peter Bergman
XV Motorsports
www.xvmotorsports.com-----------------------------
no apologys Peter ?
i dont know if you guys are interested but
here is picture of our own custom made ultra low throttle bodys, in next winter we are planning to make our own intake too witch has integrated throttles and nitrous.. we have flow metering a guitments in use and the main qoal is to invent/make the best efi intake has ever build to hemi and low hight as possible of cource ... i keep you posted on that when the time comes and if it comes.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 06:56 AM
Lookin good Masi!! Your building a very trick piece.. I hope XV does come through I like offering an apology... They should have come through without being pressured but if they get you the parts so you can move forward at this point thats all we can hope for...
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Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 09:47 AM
I honestly went through looking on XV's site last night....at one point in the past I wanted the tilt steering for my 69...but I can't understand how much money they are asking for everything. I know you have research and design you have to be compensated for....but some (most) parts are really expensive. Another one I saw was the rearview mirror with the built in reverse camera....700 bananas...and on ebay they are going for 400 with a night vision lens.
Posted By: go-fish
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 04:45 PM
How about those GM buckles on their seatbelt kit? Classy, huh?
The steering column pricing must be a joke. You can get columns all over the place for way cheaper. The only thing I have ever bought from them was the lower radiator support. Took 3 months to get. I forgot I ordered it until it showed up!
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 06:40 PM
$60 each belt....I bought 6 seat belts with the GM buckle (my originals were accidentally misplaced) for $50 from the Bag
Posted By: ThermoQuad
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/11/11 07:00 PM
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does xv advertise here? banning them would be a good start i think. i would think there should be some legal recourse as well, this is fraud.
Don't hold your breath, advertiser's money is far more important than the people who frequent this place. Just look at the continuing problems with those 5 speed snake charmers from Tennessee and those other guys who sell poorly manufactured Chinese big block parts.
Posted By: megajoltman
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/12/11 01:59 AM
BUMP
Posted By: johnscudashop
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/12/11 02:30 AM
LOL
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/13/11 05:29 PM
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Well it appears Pete's number is 516-384-6438 maybe he needs to be called & asked about this.....
Well, just to update this & keep it in the publics eye... I got a PM from Peter thanking me for posting his number...
"Hey Thanks
From: GMachineDartGT
For posting my phone number.
Not cool in my opinion.
Peter "
My response to him...
"Sent to: GMachineDartGT
You posted it, I merely attached it to a ugly mess you don't seem to feel needs fixing... Take care of business & you wouldn't have to worry about it... Have a nice day!! "
Funny We all now know he's aware of the thread yet he didn't have the balls to post a response it the thread....
Now I'll admit he only works there and it really should be John Bulshitta that belongs in the hot seat but Peter still works for John, he doesn't have the integrity to leave a company pulling this kind of crap so IMO he's just as guilty & he posted his ph # John hasn't....
BTW Peter Thanks for reminding me to bump this thread back to the top..... It needs to be seen...
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Posted By: flypaper
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/13/11 05:35 PM
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does xv advertise here? banning them would be a good start i think. i would think there should be some legal recourse as well, this is fraud.
Don't hold your breath, advertiser's money is far more important than the people who frequent this place. Just look at the continuing problems with those 5 speed snake charmers from Tennessee and those other guys who sell poorly manufactured Chinese big block parts.
ya think?
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/13/11 05:55 PM
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Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/13/11 06:29 PM
Some good news,
They did call me today to say that those upper billet arms are now ready for shipping and that the reason for this delay was that they have change the desing a bit and suplyer as well, they did reseve first pair of those today and will ship it to me with out any cost. ill keep you posted and send some pictures when they arrive...
btw: Also they told me that now they do assemble all the parts to front and rearend kits before shipping so this kind of problems will no longer happend
and i think that is progress !!
Posted By: NITROUSN
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 05/14/11 04:04 AM
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Some good news,
They did call me today to say that those upper billet arms are now ready for shipping and that the reason for this delay was that they have change the desing a bit and suplyer as well, they did reseve first pair of those today and will ship it to me with out any cost. ill keep you posted and send some pictures when they arrive...
btw: Also they told me that now they do assemble all the parts to front and rearend kits before shipping so this kind of problems will no longer happend
and i think that is progress !!
While that could be good news, they also need to respond to the poor customer communications. How many other people have bought the ill fitting JUNK with zip on the customer support. Some companies suck bad when they are bad and still suck when they are good.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:13 PM
car almost done... few weeks i will cruise my charger
billet upper arms are finally in custom`s so hopefully i will reseve those early next week...
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:15 PM
more pictures.. we did chrome the sides of the grill
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:16 PM
more
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:17 PM
dash
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:19 PM
wanna se more?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 03:32 PM
leather door panels.
Posted By: NV69B7RR
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/04/11 04:11 PM
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 01:30 AM
How did you chrome the grill so perfectly?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 06:24 AM
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How did you chrome the grill so perfectly?
my friend owns a cosmic chrome systems on his car paintshop. he can "crome" almost anything and he is a guru on this work. they look 1000x better on live.. here is the seat mecanic covers.
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 06:43 AM
So it's not actually chrome (as in metal with copper/nickel/chrome plating) it's the Chrome Paint
Mirra Chrome By Alsa Corp. that Hot Rodders are using these days right?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 06:53 AM
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So it's not actually chrome (as in metal with copper/nickel/chrome plating) it's the Chrome Paint Mirra Chrome By Alsa Corp. that Hot Rodders are using these days right?
correct ! as you know it is extramly tricky to chrome plastic.. but this is a good way to fix or customice parts that orginally hasnt been chromed..
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 08:50 AM
Looking good there. Hope the new parts will fix the problem and you get a chance to enjoy your ride.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 09:16 AM
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Looking good there. Hope the new parts will fix the problem and you get a chance to enjoy your ride.
thanks, i hope that too..
new tricker arm .. billet aluminum and custom build= home made 
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 12:26 PM
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So it's not actually chrome (as in metal with copper/nickel/chrome plating) it's the Chrome Paint Mirra Chrome By Alsa Corp. that Hot Rodders are using these days right?
I have a few cans of that in my basement where its nice and cool...Was going to spray bomb the air cleaner cover with it and make it look like a factory piece similar to the Hemi Lid. Looks like a fairly easy process. I still havent fixed my grill from the crack it received on the split nose area. After seeing our friend in Finland I had a momentary "that would look sweet on car" but I don't know if I have the patience for that kind of labor.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 02:50 PM
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So it's not actually chrome (as in metal with copper/nickel/chrome plating) it's the Chrome Paint Mirra Chrome By Alsa Corp. that Hot Rodders are using these days right?
I have a few cans of that in my basement where its nice and cool...Was going to spray bomb the air cleaner cover with it and make it look like a factory piece similar to the Hemi Lid. Looks like a fairly easy process. I still havent fixed my grill from the crack it received on the split nose area. After seeing our friend in Finland I had a momentary "that would look sweet on car" but I don't know if I have the patience for that kind of labor.
it is not a simple thing to do, if you want it to look like a real chrome at least with cosmic chrome. it has multible different stages before it is done and you need to have real painting shop with oven to get right kind of quality.
Posted By: Pat_Whalen
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 04:58 PM
That is one of the burliest crank pickup mounts I've ever seen. Doubles as an engine lift?
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 05:07 PM
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That is one of the burliest crank pickup mounts I've ever seen. Doubles as an engine lift?
if you look at the aluminum block there aint lot of places to hang one, it does not weight much as it is hollow.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/05/11 05:53 PM
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 06/15/11 04:09 PM
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/27/11 10:45 PM
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/27/11 11:27 PM
Very nice...Congrats.....very quiet out of the rear.
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/27/11 11:44 PM
Just started installing my XV front suspension yesterday on my 70 Challenger vert, so far shock towers are looking good, will see tomorrow when the control arms go in.
Posted By: DmanSRT71
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 12:10 AM
When were your components purchased?
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Just started installing my XV front suspension yesterday on my 70 Challenger vert, so far shock towers are looking good, will see tomorrow when the control arms go in.
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 12:27 AM
January of this year
Posted By: DmanSRT71
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 01:20 AM
Do you have a build thread? VERY Curious to hear updates on your build.
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January of this year
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 03:15 AM
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January of this year
No I had not posted anything on the car, I have only been working on it for 12 years LOL , here is a pic of the car as of last friday
Posted By: sparcy
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 04:32 AM
I had the same problems with magnum force they sent me a body stuff for b body told me that it was my fault nothing they can do . the manager told me they dont need east coast buisness they have more than they can handle out west . It took 3 weeks and came threw wrong and told me Im stuck with it . NOW I have firmfeel and hotchkiss and love it and after the sale both where very helpful answering my questions even the stupid ones .hotchkiss actually asked me to call back and tell him how it all worked out . coulnt beleave the way the guy at magnum crap talked to me just that alone and the thousand dollars Im out . I wouldnt buy a gumball from them
Posted By: Pyper70
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 10:42 AM
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the manager told me they dont need east coast buisness they have more than they can handle out west.
Telling a customer in this day and age of digital opinions...they screwed the pooch on this one with that remark. One day...when they are in fear of closing their doors due to a struggling economy they will wonder where they went wrong. I hope this rings loud and proud in their ears that their business ethics was the end-result of their "fair-treatment" of customers.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 11:43 AM
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I had the same problems with magnum force they sent me a body stuff for b body told me that it was my fault nothing they can do . the manager told me they dont need east coast buisness they have more than they can handle out west .
thats good. we don't need that dangerous garbage on the roads on the east coast. keep that junk on the west coast.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 01:19 PM
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I had the same problems with magnum force they sent me a body stuff for b body told me that it was my fault nothing they can do . the manager told me they dont need east coast buisness they have more than they can handle out west .
thats good. we don't need that dangerous garbage on the roads on the east coast. keep that junk on the west coast.
Have not seen magnum force parts fail yet, and know of at least 30 person who have their control arms, dropped spindles and k-members on their car, no problems except for one person ordered wrong on the site and parts order was corrected (buyer payed shipping cause it was the buyers fault).
I wonder if he bought it online and checked the wrong box? As for your stuck with something, did you call back nicely and talk to someone in charge, or did you call back with the east coast attitude that west coasters don't need to deal with? Either way, seems like there is more to this than what is being said. I have two sets of their controls arms and will be putting more of those parts on my other ride when the time comes, have no fear of driving their parts hard and daily.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 01:35 PM
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I had the same problems with magnum force they sent me a body stuff for b body told me that it was my fault nothing they can do . the manager told me they dont need east coast buisness they have more than they can handle out west .
thats good. we don't need that dangerous garbage on the roads on the east coast. keep that junk on the west coast.
Have not seen magnum force parts fail yet, and know of at least 30 person who have their control arms, dropped spindles and k-members on their car, no problems except for one person ordered wrong on the site and parts order was corrected (buyer payed shipping cause it was the buyers fault).
then you don't follow the posts on them very well. i have followed posts on tube front ends for years now and over the years there have been a ton of posts here and on other mopar forums talking about magnumforce ones having cracked welds ( haven't heard much about that lately but was a problem for some time), very poor fitment and horrible geometry and handling on the street. like i said. keep that junk over there.
Posted By: Sixgun
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 06:59 PM
"I really like my Reilly tubular upper control arms from Alterkation" the Bear said in a very small voice...
Posted By: ScottSmith_Harms
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 08:22 PM
Ask Matt Delaney how the Magnum Force A-arms worked out for him on his 68 Charger with the Viper engine (remember? It was that beautiful silver 68 he built?)
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 09:04 PM
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Ask Matt Delaney how the Magnum Force A-arms worked out for him on his 68 Charger with the Viper engine (remember? It was that beautiful silver 68 he built?)
spill it man. what happened? is that why he runs alter-k in his stuff now?
Posted By: feets
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 10:28 PM
I saw Delaney's Charger before it made the magazines. They trailered it to the shows because the front end was impossible to align and the car was not safe to drive.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/28/11 11:48 PM
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I saw Delaney's Charger before it made the magazines. They trailered it to the shows because the front end was impossible to align and the car was not safe to drive.
yup. thats par for the course for magnumforce.
Posted By: migsBIG
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/29/11 12:35 AM
I know they had some problems in the past with welding, can't say I've herad anything bad in the last couple years. As for fitment, they do say to drop your vehicle off at the shop for a better fit due to production being diffrent on each car. I mean, how many companies will build your frontend on your car to the cars specs for no additional charge? Seems lik these old stories keep getting resurfaced, and new date and folks think they are current. As for the silver charger, don't know the specs on it, so I can't comment if the work was done right or wrong before MF parts were installed on it. I'm going by personal experience with their products, not by what strangers post on the internet. I won't argue about it here, I'm happy and lots of thther folks are happy.
You guys on the east coast can keep all your badly rusty and beat cars there, well just enjoy our clean drivers out here.
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/29/11 01:23 AM
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I know they had some problems in the past with welding, can't say I've herad anything bad in the last couple years. As for fitment, they do say to drop your vehicle off at the shop for a better fit due to production being diffrent on each car. I mean, how many companies will build your frontend on your car to the cars specs for no additional charge? Seems lik these old stories keep getting resurfaced, and new date and folks think they are current. As for the silver charger, don't know the specs on it, so I can't comment if the work was done right or wrong before MF parts were installed on it. I'm going by personal experience with their products, not by what strangers post on the internet. I won't argue about it here, I'm happy and lots of thther folks are happy.
You guys on the east coast can keep all your badly rusty and beat cars there, well just enjoy our clean drivers out here.
shouldn't have to have them install it for you.. the alter-k seems not to have that problem.
the geometry problems are still current problems, just like the shock tower problems. yea yea i know they make a band aid for their poor design. like i said i haven't heard much about the welding problem but it has to be a concern spending that much money.
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so I can't comment if the work was done right or wrong before MF parts were installed on it.
you know who Matt Delaney is? trust me it was done right. just had garbage for a front end under it.
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 08/09/11 04:33 AM
first test drive done, still few things to before it is ready, some paint fixing, dyno, efi adjustments, wheel agle adjustments..etc
more pictures here
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger/page-19
Posted By: feets
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 08/09/11 06:23 PM
Looks good!
Posted By: pro451bee
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 08/10/11 05:05 AM
Very nice work ! I love that black paint/ red upholstery job and trick gauges .
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 09/15/11 08:39 PM
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 09/19/11 08:52 PM
i have now driven the car for two days and i have to say that level II suspension feels fantastic even the xv support&quality did had problems.
I got to say now im happy that the car is finally done.. well yes it still needs some work but i can already enjoy this quality ride.
i will post new pictures of the car show and road trip im doing end of the week... total 650miles.
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/08/11 02:40 PM
Well just got done installing my XV Suspension items on my challenger, and i too had to correct the upper control arm issue, but rather then deal with them, my chassis shop fixed it. Here are some pictures of the project as it is proceeding.
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/08/11 02:43 PM
front control arm
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/08/11 02:44 PM
K Frame
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Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/08/11 02:46 PM
Gen 3 Hemi
Posted By: blewbyu
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/08/11 02:47 PM
rear suspension
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/06/12 05:08 AM
Hi
i have update a Kenne Bell 4.2 twin screw supercharger to My 1968 Charger with 572 all aluminum hemi, here is a video on the second start up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgL3YcOp-mI&feature=youtu.bemore information on the project can be find here
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837245/1968-dodge-charger
Posted By: studio57
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/14/12 11:40 AM
Car now back from the painting shop, still lot of things to do before it back on the streets
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZtsqajuKKo
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 07/14/12 12:36 PM
car looks great.
Posted By: 1_WILD_RT
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 10/25/12 06:45 PM
Posted By: cogen80
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 12/26/12 01:37 PM
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Well it appears Pete's number is 516-384-6438 maybe he needs to be called & asked about this.....
Well, just to update this & keep it in the publics eye... I got a PM from Peter thanking me for posting his number...
"Hey Thanks
From: GMachineDartGT
For posting my phone number.
Not cool in my opinion.
Peter "
My response to him...
"Sent to: GMachineDartGT
You posted it, I merely attached it to a ugly mess you don't seem to feel needs fixing... Take care of business & you wouldn't have to worry about it... Have a nice day!! "
Funny We all now know he's aware of the thread yet he didn't have the balls to post a response it the thread....
Now I'll admit he only works there and it really should be John Bulshitta that belongs in the hot seat but Peter still works for John, he doesn't have the integrity to leave a company pulling this kind of crap so IMO he's just as guilty & he posted his ph # John hasn't....
BTW Peter Thanks for reminding me to bump this thread back to the top..... It needs to be seen...
In order to make this thread pop up in a search about XV Motorsports we need to make sure we Include the full company name in each post, the more often the better... so make sure you include XV Motorsports in your post
lol.. your on a mission against XV Motorsports
Posted By: DAYCLONA
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 12/26/12 03:51 PM
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Well it appears Pete's number is 516-384-6438 maybe he needs to be called & asked about this.....
Well, just to update this & keep it in the publics eye... I got a PM from Peter thanking me for posting his number...
"Hey Thanks
From: GMachineDartGT
For posting my phone number.
Not cool in my opinion.
Peter "
My response to him...
"Sent to: GMachineDartGT
You posted it, I merely attached it to a ugly mess you don't seem to feel needs fixing... Take care of business & you wouldn't have to worry about it... Have a nice day!! "
Funny We all now know he's aware of the thread yet he didn't have the balls to post a response it the thread....
Now I'll admit he only works there and it really should be John Bulshitta that belongs in the hot seat but Peter still works for John, he doesn't have the integrity to leave a company pulling this kind of crap so IMO he's just as guilty & he posted his ph # John hasn't....
BTW Peter Thanks for reminding me to bump this thread back to the top..... It needs to be seen...
In order to make this thread pop up in a search about XV Motorsports we need to make sure we Include the full company name in each post, the more often the better... so make sure you include XV Motorsports in your post
lol.. your on a mission against XV Motorsports
Pete B. dosen't work for XVMotorsports anymore...
Posted By: Super Coupe
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 12/26/12 08:50 PM
My dad also had problems with XV. Mustang problems. this was in 2012. not old news. Non-delivery, no fit on parts that were supplied. Excuses for lack of product shipment, excuses for not making the bad good, then Sean was unavailable. Money tied up while attempting to resolve issues. Receptionist didn't seem to be in direct contact with Sean. Finally, after he got his money refunded, they sent the missing parts another month later. Receptionist again didn't know what to make of it. Nobody was aware of a billing/delivery conflict, or even remembered the refund resolution a month prior. He returned the parts but could have as easily kept them and they probably never would have known the difference if he hadn't called again.
Product engineering looked good in pics he got, but experience says to stay away.
Posted By: Publicbottle
Re: XV Level II big time dissapointment - 02/06/13 05:01 AM
Can not believe the lack of customer support. Truly unreal..
..will not be getting my business.
