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A- body rear brakes #922882
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Why did chrysler use narrow drums/shoes on the rear? Will regular 10" stuff fit?

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to fit it all under the fenders

no,you can not mix the skinny 1 3/4" brake stuff with any of the larger brake parts

the axle off set is diff on the A-body axle

you can swap in some cut resplined large brake axles and run the larger backing plate/shoes/drums in the a-body 8 3/4 housing

or get some custom alxes with the large brake off set and use the large brakes

when you go to large brakes on the A-body 8 3/4,it will make the whole rear axle wider by about a 1/2"...1/4" each side

when I swaped my 68 dart to large brakes, I ran 7" rim with a 4.5 backset - 245/60/15 tire

when I put that A-body 8 3/4 in my 85 truck(bolts right in) I went to 12" rims with the same 4.5" backset and a 29x15x15 M/T(tucks right in the fenders on the truck tubed to the frame rail)

so you have to watch you rim backspace when you swap to large brakes


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I bought a 68 Dart to build a Hemi car and have to put a Dana in. The car came with 8 3/4 large bolt pattern axle but no drums, I thought I might be able to put a set of 10" drums off another axle to make this one complete, sounds like I'm going in the wrong direction. If I get the narrow drums, is there enough room to modify the holes for axle studs? I would need to elongate the holes 1/4" outward.

Re: A- body rear brakes [Re: Hemidavey] #922885
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no big bolt pattern on a-body axle unless its been re-drilled to the 5 on 4.5 wbp

if it has large brakes on it,it has had the axles swaped already or is a B-body 8 3/4 thats stuck in the A-body...which can be done with an early B-body 8 3/4

the backing plates will determin the size drum and shoes you need

any BP-drums-shoes of any B,E,C,truck,car D-60--8 1/4-8 3/4-9 1/4 should work if the axle has the large brake offset

if the axles are re-drilled to 5 on 4.5 wbp,you will need the skinny drums and shoes and have the drum redrilled to the 5 on 4.5" wbp

you need to check the axle brake offset to make sure of what you have first..this will make sure you are not mixing the brake parts

Re: A- body rear brakes [Re: scratchnfotraction] #922886
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What about after 73? I thought they went up to the regular bolt pattern to use the unicast rotors?

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What about after 73? I thought they went up to the regular bolt pattern to use the unicast rotors?




Yes they did , they use the regular 10" offset drums in the rear but it does widen the track width vs the 4" Bolt pattern equipped cars.

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correct..but the 8 3/4 A-body would still have a 4" wbp with the larger drums/brakes IIRC

no A-body 8 3/4 got the 5 on 4.5 wbp

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Well how about that

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Well what would you do then on a 73+ A-body to fit the bigger bp - B/E drums and machined axles?
{EDIT] It's looking like either custom order or C-body axles so you have enough beef to cut and respline them?

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I went with a set of Moser custom alloy axles good for 500 HP speced for the A-body with the large brake offset and 5 on 4.5 wbp

was about 299$ and came with green bearings back whan I did my 68 dart

or have a set of B-body axle cut resplined to A-body specs

it put the 7" rim with 4.5 backspace 245/60/15 tire right in the middle of the wheel tub

1/4" clearance at the fender lip(not rolled) and a 1/4" clearance at the tire bulge and leaf spring for a perfect fit

i now have that A-body 8 3/4 in the 85 truck(bolts right in) and tucked 12" rims with 29x15x15 M/Ts in the fenders with the same 4.5 backspace on the rim

1/4" clearance on the fender lip and 1/4" clearance on the tire bulge and leaf spring just like the Dart( I did tub the bed to the frame rails though)

the 73-up A-body with large brakes and 5 on 4.5 wbp used a 7 1/4 and 8 1/4 rear axle with the large wbp/large brakes

and with my 7" rim 4.5 backset 245/60 tire rubed the leaf spring just enuff to eat the white letters off on turns...needed 4 1/4" backset with the large brake/wbp 7 1/4 axle I had

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correct..but the 8 3/4 A-body would still have a 4" wbp with the larger drums/brakes IIRC

no A-body 8 3/4 got the 5 on 4.5 wbp




not sure what you are saying but the largest brakes available on an 8.75 equipped A body , and the only ?? , was the 10x1.75 and the offset of the a body axle is about a 1/4 less than all other cars .

Yes there was not a 4.5 BP 8.75 .... EXCEPT for MAYBE the 68 SS Hemi A bodies WITH automatic trans ???



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Well what would you do then on a 73+ A-body to fit the bigger bp - B/E drums and machined axles?
{EDIT] It's looking like either custom order or C-body axles so you have enough beef to cut and respline them?




73/up got the standard offset axles as bigger cars and used their brakes when equipped with 10" drums so you either cut down C barge axles or better just buy a set of better quality axles.

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no A-body 8 3/4 got the large wbp or the large brake offset is what I was trying to say...







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