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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: 602heavy]
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02/07/11 02:03 PM
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Well , if you got a comp cam with the part# ending in -9 & it is'nt a billet core then you've been screwed over.  .......maybe call comp cams & tell them the issue you had........Goldmember , did'nt you post something on speed talk regards this issue?
Nope. It's not an issue to me,just trying to pass along info that may help someone down the line. If someone other than Stanton needs this info just PM me with a phone # and I'll go over it again. Many comp cams ending in -9 that are cast cores(NOT ALL),catalog is incorrect,not a big deal for the application. Just don't like to hear the garbage being spewn as fact,although it's not uncommon. Can you tell which is the -9?
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: goldmember]
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02/07/11 02:48 PM
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72 RR, Pump gas 440, 452s, 3800 lbs, Corked, ET Radials,. 11.33@117.72.
Same car, bone stock 346s, 9.5 comp, baby solid. 12.24@110.
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: goldmember]
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02/07/11 03:21 PM
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Nope. It's not an issue to me,just trying to pass along info that may help someone down the line. If someone other than Stanton needs this info just PM me with a phone # and I'll go over it again. Many comp cams ending in -9 that are cast cores(NOT ALL),catalog is incorrect,not a big deal for the application. Just don't like to hear the garbage being spewn as fact,although it's not uncommon. Can you tell which is the -9?
Must of been an issue as you would'nt of posted over on speed talk , if i rememmber correctly you got no reply to you're question.  ............ fact is the -9 IS a billet core , just because you got sent/sold the cast core does'nt mean we should all be aware -9s are NOT billet , the one on the left of you're picture is obviously a cast core .
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: 602heavy]
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02/07/11 03:51 PM
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I ask about cores as I noticed comp was using cast cores with the -9 tag,yes, 4 different comp suppliers confirmed this. For that build I really wanted a 2pc core,which after working with Comp they were able to locate(although crane being done they had only a couple left) and I let them grind that cam. If I had ordered the same pn with that magical-9 through Jegs,Summit,etc I would recieve a CAST core as most running a hyd roller would be fine with that choice. For those that guessed the right was a -9 you were wrong,thats a crane billet(comp billets are -9),for those that guessed the cam on the left,you win!! Comp hyd roller cast core -9.Would you want a billet hyd roller cam and the pain of using a bronze gear on a mild build? I think several of you just missed my point completely. 
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: goldmember]
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02/07/11 05:14 PM
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I'm going to carefully step around the  above and state exactly what I know on this subject: 1. There are no BBM / 426 Hemi billet cam cores w/ cast-iron gears pressed on available from any core source. 2. Although there have been cast cores used for performance roller cam applications for other brands, they have been given the  by many engine builders because they don't hold up as well w/ the higher spring pressures that go along w/ those applications. You can do a search on cast roller cams on SpeedTalk.com to see some examples of this. 3. The only choice I have seen offered for hydraulic or solid rollers w/ a BBM or 426 Hemi is a billet steel cam that requires using the bronze distributor drive gear. I'm not thrilled about that either, but it is what it is at this time.
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
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02/07/11 05:19 PM
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
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02/07/11 05:40 PM
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I'm going to carefully step around the above and state exactly what I know on this subject:
1. There are no BBM / 426 Hemi billet cam cores w/ cast-iron gears pressed on available from any core source.
2. Although there have been cast cores used for performance roller cam applications for other brands, they have been given the by many engine builders because they don't hold up as well w/ the higher spring pressures that go along w/ those applications. You can do a search on cast roller cams on SpeedTalk.com to see some examples of this.
3. The only choice I have seen offered for hydraulic or solid rollers w/ a BBM or 426 Hemi is a billet steel cam that requires using the bronze distributor drive gear. I'm not thrilled about that either, but it is what it is at this time.
Although I have been told(not verified!) that Ruben cams(grinds for others) has other core options. Again,I have no evidence to back this up.
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
[Re: Stanton]
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02/07/11 07:09 PM
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"all along I've merely been quoting the Comp catalog." "Your statement below CLEARLY absolves me of any error." There's your problem. You believe everything you read,whether it's on the internet or in a catalog,it can easily be wrong. I'm not picking on you. If you think I owe you anything your sadly mistaken. A 4yr old with major ADHD can see that. I'll go down the street and borrow one(4 yr old ADHD kid) to confirm it if you like.
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Re: sadi roller vs billet roller with bronze gear
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02/07/11 07:27 PM
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Ok, goldmember, I have no problem having an argument, being told I'm wrong or even admitting to being wrong - when I am! However, all along I've merely been quoting the Comp catalog. Your statement below CLEARLY absolves me of any error.
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catalog is incorrect
You owe me an apology. I don't think you're man enough!
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This thread is about to go away!! 
