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lightweight working headlights #919934
02/02/11 10:24 PM 02/02/11 10:24 PM
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I have seen these in some old cars at the track. Never have figured where to get them. I need a pair for my 65' barracuda and want street legal stuff. The glass ones are heavy.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Leon441] #919935
02/02/11 10:28 PM 02/02/11 10:28 PM
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I have seen these in some old cars at the track. Never have figured where to get them. I need a pair for my 65' barracuda and want street legal stuff. The glass ones are heavy.



I would like to know this also..

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Leon441] #919936
02/02/11 10:28 PM 02/02/11 10:28 PM
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I have seen these in some old cars at the track. Never have figured where to get them. I need a pair for my 65' barracuda and want street legal stuff. The glass ones are heavy.



Look for the halogen ones with the screw in bulb
from the rear... your gonna have to buy the plastic
headlight like your current ones
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: MR_P_BODY] #919937
02/02/11 10:41 PM 02/02/11 10:41 PM
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Check out Daniel Stern he is a Mopar guy and is a lighting guru.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: PHJ426] #919938
02/03/11 01:05 AM 02/03/11 01:05 AM
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Mooresburg, Tn
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Leon, I bought a '85 Daytona a few years ago that had the 4 head light front end and one of the head lights was made out of plastic. It didn't weigh hardly anything and was a sealed beam. I think I still have it. If I can find it tomorrow I'll let you know who made it. I'm thinking it was Wagner, just not sure.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: MR_P_BODY] #919939
02/03/11 05:24 AM 02/03/11 05:24 AM
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I have seen these in some old cars at the track. Never have figured where to get them. I need a pair for my 65' barracuda and want street legal stuff. The glass ones are heavy.



Look for the halogen ones with the screw in bulb
from the rear... your gonna have to buy the plastic
headlight like your current ones




H-4 headlights.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: autoxcuda] #919940
02/03/11 05:40 AM 02/03/11 05:40 AM
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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: StripeHOG] #919941
02/03/11 10:46 AM 02/03/11 10:46 AM
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I need one pair also if you can find any

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: mafo] #919942
02/03/11 11:39 AM 02/03/11 11:39 AM
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Oologah, Oklahoma
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I'd be up for a pair also.......

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Leon441] #919943
02/03/11 12:07 PM 02/03/11 12:07 PM
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Here's some too. Pilot makes them. They are all made of plastic.

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/headline.asp?hid=126DP9966
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: jbsperformance] #919944
02/03/11 12:41 PM 02/03/11 12:41 PM
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How much weight can be saved?

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as long as you look good doing it!

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: BloFish] #919945
02/03/11 12:54 PM 02/03/11 12:54 PM
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The new JEGS catalog has them in it.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: jbsperformance] #919946
02/03/11 01:27 PM 02/03/11 01:27 PM
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Here's some too. Pilot makes them. They are all made of plastic.

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/headline.asp?hid=126DP9966



they are pretty cool!!

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: sixpackgut] #919947
02/03/11 01:37 PM 02/03/11 01:37 PM
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Here's some too. Pilot makes them. They are all made of plastic.

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/headline.asp?hid=126DP9966



they are pretty cool!!



So what kind of weight savings are they compared to glass
Anyone know AMP draw, could the stock switch be used

Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: sjs64polara] #919948
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Here's some too. Pilot makes them. They are all made of plastic.

http://www.yearone.com/serverfiles/headline.asp?hid=126DP9966



they are pretty cool!!



So what kind of weight savings are they compared to glass
Anyone know AMP draw, could the stock switch be used



in the description it says to use a relay. you should use a relay anyway though. i would like to know how much a 7" glass light weighs also. i will post later if no one else can weigh one

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: sixpackgut] #919949
02/03/11 02:58 PM 02/03/11 02:58 PM
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as long as you look good doing it!

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: 1967dartgt] #919950
02/04/11 01:20 AM 02/04/11 01:20 AM
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The new JEGS catalog has them in it.



I have the ones from Jegs, It is lighter but I think the front is still glass while the back is plastic.
I'll try to take one out tomorrow and compair the two
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: SB412DUSTER] #919951
02/04/11 11:01 AM 02/04/11 11:01 AM
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Got this from AUTO-ZONE's web page

Pilot Automotive/2 pcs. 5 3/4 in. round headlamp conversion kit for 5006 headlamp
Part Number: WI-HL4
Weight: 2.0 lbs

Shipping Information: Overnight and Two Day shipping are not available for PO Box, APO/FPO/DPO or US Territory addresses.
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: sjs64polara] #919952
02/04/11 11:20 AM 02/04/11 11:20 AM
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I put the 7" ones from Jegs. Dont know how much they weigh but they are bright and make the guy at the ticket shack look the othe way

Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: poisondart2] #919953
02/04/11 03:52 PM 02/04/11 03:52 PM
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Chad's Buick has the 4 square headlights. The glass ones are about 3.5lbs each. The plastic ones are less than .5lb. That's a 12lb savings. Ours are wagner, but they no longer make them and we bought every one that NAPA had in their system, at least that style.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Monte_Smith] #919954
02/04/11 04:11 PM 02/04/11 04:11 PM
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If you need 7 inch round ones. Try a late model Jeep Wrangler. They are light weight plastic, use a modern hi-output bulb and reflector and they bolt right in.

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Dave_S] #919955
02/04/11 06:53 PM 02/04/11 06:53 PM
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The 7" round units are available from Pilot Automotive as part number WI-HL7. These are the ones that Year One sells also and are 100% plastic housing and lens. They also sell one that is glass under the part number WI-HL3, so don't get those numbers confused as the glass is less expensive than the plastic. FYI, Year One sells them for $55 and bullychamp.com has them for $36.50.

The ones by Autolock (the ones I think Jegs sells) have a plastic housing with a glass lens.
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: 408strokerdart] #919956
02/04/11 09:08 PM 02/04/11 09:08 PM
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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: 493_DART] #919957
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i weighed a 7" bulb and it was 1lb 3oz and 5.75 bulb was 11oz

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: sixpackgut] #919958
02/04/11 10:31 PM 02/04/11 10:31 PM
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Yeah, the Wagner H6024 plastic bulbs went bye bye many years ago.
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: Leigh] #919959
02/05/11 02:51 PM 02/05/11 02:51 PM
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napa sells the kits. you can get a 7" round plastic LED light, with bulb , and connector to adapt to stock plug for 89.00 per side. i would imagine you could get non LED and be much cheaper.
hope this helps

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: mopar_to_ya] #919960
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Does this kit need some kind of relay to assist the light switch from burning out?
If that is the case then the weight issue fazes itself out.
I weighed my glass originals and If I remember correctly, they weighed in the ball park of 1.5- 2. lbs.
I was thinking this same idea a few years back.
Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: fullmetaljacket] #919961
02/06/11 10:26 AM 02/06/11 10:26 AM
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I bought some off Ebay.I had them in my 57 and a set in the 65.My kid has a set in his 62 300 also.They are the plastic ones with the replacebale bulbs.One set has been in at least 9 years and still clear as when he installed them.Mine 4 years.All the cars are street driven.No relay needed.The relays Ive heard are a good upgrade though.The Halogen bulb actually draws less amps.Just dont try to run something like a 100/200 watt bulb.I run 55/100 in all of mine.I even have them in the Harleys.Rocky

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Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: therocks] #919962
02/06/11 01:20 PM 02/06/11 01:20 PM
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now this is interesting and something im going to definitely look into further...never thought about going from glass to plastic. Would be nice to save some weight only change bulbs instead of the whole darn light

Re: lightweight working headlights [Re: therocks] #919963
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I used to run Halo's back in the day because I heard that they actually drew less amps and in turn less drag from the Alternator for a grand total of a couple of horses at the flywheel.

Heard that F.A.S.T guys! I bet the F.A.S.T crowd had that one figured out already though.LOL.
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