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NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? #914252
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Just wondering if anyone has any real world experience with running a SB and an aluminum flywheel on the street and how it worked out for them. I've been toying with the idea. It would be behind a pretty torquey 360 with a 3.55 rear in a '70 Dart.



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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: MadMatt] #914253
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Very limited experiance...had to keep the rpms up a bit more than usual. That steel flywheel stores a lot of energy. An aluminum flywheel doesn't and your RPM's will drop dramaticly between shifts.

Get used speed shifting all the time LOL! Gets a little old in a daily driver.

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: Ontos] #914254
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I have a few thousand miles on my setup w/ about a 13# wheel (see sig for combo details). It's different, but doesn't require anything more then a little time to get used to. RPM drop isn't crazy either, normal shift speed for me. Engine does rev noticeably quicker.

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: MadMatt] #914255
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I have run steel and aluminium flywheels in the same Challenger with a 3.55 gear. One was a 416 stroker that made 490lbs torque, the other a 346 with a 525 solid cam. Both engines were much better on the STREET with the steel flywheel. Most notably say in a parking lot in first gear at idle engine, would roll making the car sort of buck. A quick in with the clutch and blip of the throttle cures it. Both engines would not do this surge with the steel flywheel.
Aluminium flywheel on a 440 engine and 4.10 gears that I had in a 68 Cuda had no streetability issues like the small blocks had. Cubic inches and lighter weight will make a difference.

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: mercman1] #914256
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most tuners run the aluminum flywheels as do I on my drift car - makes for much better and quicker throttle response - never had any issues - used them from 100hp - 600hp cars...

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: MadMatt] #914257
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Dont want to steal this thread, but have a quick question. How much does a stock SB flywheel weigh?


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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: fastnos] #914258
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I have 4 sb 130t and they all range between 32 and 35 lbs.


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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: wildman340] #914259
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Hmmm,
I wonder if a custom SB Chrysler flywheel
made of depleted Uranium-238 from Paducah KY
would allow a Ram truck
to climb a bit steeper interstate highway hills
without shifting out of Overdrive?

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: dangina] #914260
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Quote:

most tuners run the aluminum flywheels as do I on my drift car - makes for much better and quicker throttle response - never had any issues - used them from 100hp - 600hp cars...




Revs quicker and 20 pounds lighter than steel......now you have my attention!

Unless these things develop cracks or warp over time under street use I see no drawbacks.

There are a couple on the Summit site: Centerforce and Fidanza..........


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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: dangina] #914261
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most tuners run the aluminum flywheels as do I on my drift car - makes for much better and quicker throttle response - never had any issues - used them from 100hp - 600hp cars...




Part of what prompted my original question was that years ago I had a Toyota Celica 4-cylinder that need a clutch and the guy talked me into lightening the flywheel. It made a huge difference for the better in how the car ran. It revved way faster, shifted smoother, seemed to run smoother, and acted like it had more power.


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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: MadMatt] #914262
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I know you are referring to small block but i have an aluminum flywheel in my 440 tko 600 combo and like it on the street it does take some getting used to but revs quite quickly

Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: roadrunner7020] #914263
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I've been running one on my challenger with a procharged/fuel injected 340 and a Tremec TKO for at least 7 years and over 50k miles now. It takes some getting used to but is pretty sweet. It revs like a sport bike and has amazing throttle response. You do have to pay more attention to clutch engagement but I kinda like that aspect of it. The only issue I have had is that sometimes when rolling slowing to a stop when I put in the clutch the engine will die before the efi can cacth the drop and return to idle (dfi gen 7)

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Re: NE1 running a SB and aluminum flywheel on the street? [Re: roadrunner7020] #914264
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I know you are referring to small block but i have an aluminum flywheel in my 440 tko 600 combo and like it on the street it does take some getting used to but revs quite quickly




Several people have used the phrase "it takes some getting used to", but I wish you could be a bit more specific. Is it just that it revs up (and apparently down) more quickly? I noticed some reference to clutch engagement. I'd be running a hydraulic clutch setup which would tend to soften clutch engagement. Would that make it better or worse? How does it effect launch technique when you want to get to the next stoplight a little quicker than the guy next to you?


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